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Our 21 year old daughter went with me to the range today, her second time to ever shoot anything. She started again with the Marlin 783 22 magnum and she's really getting good with that. We were shooting on the 100yard range and she shot the center of the target out. Then she asked if she could try the 444P and I said absolutely. I reminded her that it would kick considerably more than the 1894P she shot last time but she wanted to try it anyway. I also warned her about scope eye and to stay back from the scope.

Well she did just fine, on paper at 100 yards, no 1.00" group but fine just the same. She fired it three times and said it was enough for today but she'll shoot it again next week. Another one hooked on the 444. ;D

Range video of her with the 444P.

She's had experience with the following in two trips to the range.

22 Mag in Model 783
44 Mag in Model 1894P
410 Shotshell in Taurus Judge
444 in Model 444P
 

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Love it!!! Only way to make sure gun rights are not taken away is to keep more people joining the ranks of those who know it's not the tool that kills, but the person using it. I have 3 daughters and 4 boys and all love to shoot. They will help carry on the fight against the gun grabbers. DP
 

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I knew the ports helped keep the muzzle down, didn't realize how much till I watched your daughter shoot. 8) DP
 

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dpe.ahoy said:
I knew the ports helped keep the muzzle down, didn't realize how much till I watched your daughter shoot. 8) DP
It's a learning experience (for me) every time I watch somebody else shoot my ported rifles. I've watched closely to see just how the rifle kicks, how much muzzle jump there is and the effect on target re-acquisition. Some of these have been off the bench but I learn the most from folks who shoot offhand with them. I wouldn't call it a scientific study but I do make mental notes and comparisons when I shoot from the same position or stance.

Other than that, it's a ton of fun. ;D
 

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Very nice Scott. BTW, what kind of tripod are you using? It looks handy.
 

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dpe.ahoy said:
I knew the ports helped keep the muzzle down, didn't realize how much till I watched your daughter shoot. 8) DP
My 19yr old daughter has shot my 444P a little and I never noticed how little muzzle rise there was. Interesting; what was the load?
 

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Very nice Scott. BTW, what kind of tripod are you using? It looks handy.
Al, I often use a bi-pod that closes around the magazine tube (it is plastic and doesn't mar the bluing) for sighting in. It's held in-place by spring pressure. That or a canvas bag filled with filler (which is what Kari was using). I picked the bipod up at a gun show for about $3.00. It has paid dividends over & over for sighting in. I don't have a lead sled or anything similar so that's what I use.


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My 19yr old daughter has shot my 444P a little and I never noticed how little muzzle rise there was. Interesting; what was the load?
IN1894SS, I load H4198 at 47gr with a Remington 240 JSP. That works well in my rifle, just saying...... your results may vary. It isn't a max load but gets the point across to anything it runs into. ;D
 

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lever addict said:
I think your daughter had a good teacher! It looks like she knows what she's doing and handled that 444 like an expert! ;D
I have to agree Scott. I think she did really well with her form.

I've been thinking about one of those .444's but I'll need to find an old one first ...


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bigjeepman said:
I have to agree Scott. I think she did really well with her form.

I've been thinking about one of those .444's but I'll need to find an old one first ...


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Doug, if you pick one up you'll love it. They are a handy, powerful, yet not uncomfortable rifle to shoot that just looks GOOD!
 

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I'll second that.

Have not shot any of my others since Maincat found her for me my 444P.

I told my wife it sure is short, but it appears to be the most accurate.

Shoot strait

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I was getting ready to do some loading for the range this weekend and asked my daughter tonight if I should load anymore 444's. She perked up and said you bet. Guess the few rounds last week didn't scare her away. ;D I'll have her try the 45-70 this weekend to see what she thinks of that. I have some pretty mild loads for her.

I've got a feeling this is gunna get expensive, she loves shooting the 1894P too. Gunna have to pick up more powder and boolits, that’s for sure. UPS showed up today with some more 450 Interlock rounds. I'm not reloading that one yet but will soon after I get enough used brass. Right now I'm having too much fun just shooting it.

I'll try to get serious about shooting some postal match targets this weekend. Messed around finishing up sighting in scopes last weekend.
 

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Scott: Save some mild 450s for when we meet at the Florida get together. I'm sure I'll still be nursing my 338 shoulder ;D

BTW, I did order the Pachmayr decelerator slip on pad in brown to match the stock ;D
 

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Might not want to leave that pad on to long. I picked up a 44 mag last year that had the perfect outline of the pachmayer slip on pad left on the stock. DP
 

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The recoil for an 8# unported 444 with a 300 gr bullet at ~2200fs is ~32ftlb recoil energy and ~16f/s recoil velocity...about what a 300 WM shooting 200 gr bullets at 3000fs produces...or a 12ga with 1 1/4 oz "Express" field loads does. With a ported 444, depending on the area of the ports in relation to the bore, the recoil energy is reduced to ~20-25ftlb but about the same recoil velocity...so you could say that half of the recoild energy is being used to keep/push the barrel back down.

An 8# 30-06 has ~16-20ftlbs recoil energy and ~11-14f/s recoil velocity and is about the limit of what the average hunter wants to deal with unless they shoot a lot or have shot larger calibers.

That video is worth more than a MILLION jaw flappings. ;D ;D Very excellent and also cool... 8)

It takes practice and plenty of shooting to learn that the recoil isn't going to kill you and only hurts for a little while... :eek: ???

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dpe.ahoy said:
Might not want to leave that pad on to long. I picked up a 44 mag last year that had the perfect outline of the pachmayer slip on pad left on the stock. DP
Good point thanks. I'll probably put in on and take it off so that it doesn't show on the wood.
 
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