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The big problem with Conservatives is that as a whole we are generally law abiding and are very slow to take action. We also have certain morals and values that we are very determined to hang on to. We go to work, church and see to our families. We love our country and traditions, culture and history. We avoid having to take welfare if we can work.
The Democrats have always leaned a little socialistic but nothing like today. They don’t want a chicken in every pot, they want the farm. These people cold never build a farm on their own. We have about 100yrs of examples to see that.
Biden is going to collapse the country. Is this the goal? The whole idea of Marxist radical take over if to overcome the system. If we collapse there will have to be reorganization. The Constitution would be lost in the reorganization. I try to figure out the why so I can understand these policies that go opposite the people regardless of party. Whatever it is, we are approaching point that action is going to have to be taken.
The Government is under complete Democrat control. What little power the Repbs in Senate have with the filibuster is going to be done away with. They lied about it. They knew all the time they were going to kill the filibuster. That’s it, clean sweep from that point on. With the speed they have put their policies into effect they will not hesitate when they get the chance. They are racing against the clock. The voters will have a voice in 2022. Our voice will be wiped out if they can get their agenda into action before elections. They are just one election away from basically one party rule for the near future.
It’s a big step both ways. It is a big game of chicken and we better not swerve out of the way.
 

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I would add this situation is entirely the fault of the GOP since they did nothing to strengthen safeguards against the kind of encroachments the Democrats have made against the Constitution. This go around they are showing exactly what kind of people they are - petty dictators that have no idea of costs nor consequences of their actions.
 

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Where the federal courts, up to and including the Supreme Court, rely on case law that is biased in the government’s favor, it is the individual and sovereign states that retain the final and determining interpretation of the Constitution, which has always been intended to protect the people from their own government.
Our focus should be on our own states’ efforts to nullify all un-Constitutional laws.
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👆Pretty much says it all. Freedom pretty much begins and ends with the common man and his rifle, not government or its courts...
 

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I would add this situation is entirely the fault of the GOP since they did nothing to strengthen safeguards against the kind of encroachments the Democrats have made against the Constitution. This go around they are showing exactly what kind of people they are - petty dictators that have no idea of costs nor consequences of their actions.
I agree with you, the Repbs have been asleep at the stick for years, Gonalong to get along. I think everyone was surprised at the vicious actions of the Democrats after Trump won 2001. They should have seen this coming. The inability to bring the guilty parties to justice tells me one thing. They couldn’t because they are in the Swamp too. They can’t do anything without endangering themselves.
Why hasn’t there been action on Omar over her fraud in getting into this country? The Dems are protecting her from prosecution. There has to be a lot of mutual criminality going on behind the scenes. If they get caught they tap dance and run out the clock or take care of it in house.
We need people who are bullet proof to all this race and sex issues. And those who are willing to take it as far as necessary to run out the scum. The majority of these politicians could be sent up on tax charges if IRS was set upon them.
 

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This Leftist Garbage comes from the most over-turned decisions from and by any court in the U.S. From the same 9th Circuit Court with the only purpose (Optically), continually seeks: to deprive the law abiding U.S. Citizen of our Constitutionally Protected Rights under their color of law. They appear to conduct themselves on behest of or acting as agents for the Enemies of this Constitutional Republic. I shall not subscribe to nor shall I accept their pro-leftist ideologic decisions or personal opinions when it comes to the U.S. Constitution not now or ever.

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This Leftist Garbage comes from the most over-turned decisions from and by any court in the U.S. From the same 9th Circuit Court with the only purpose (Optically), continually seeks: to deprive the law abiding U.S. Citizen of our Constitutionally Protected Rights under their color of law. They appear to conduct themselves on behest of or acting as agents for the Enemies of this Constitutional Republic. I shall not subscribe to nor shall I accept their pro-leftist ideologic decisions or personal opinions when it comes to the U.S. Constitution not now or ever.

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I concur!

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Uh, what about the Declaration of Independence? Doesn't that merit some consideration?
Of course, but that document was directed to King George. Our Constitution supersedes the need to draft another “Declaration”.
It’s time to devolve our out-of-control government’s power back to the individual states where it was always intended to reside. It’s time for everyone to push their state legislatures to reject Washington’s ridiculous and dangerous concentration of political power. It’s the only proper path forward if we wish to avoid domestic war.
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Of course, but that document was directed to King George. Our Constitution supersedes the need to draft another “Declaration”.
It’s time to devolve our out-of-control government’s power back to the individual states where it was always intended to reside. It’s time for everyone to push their state legislatures to reject Washington’s ridiculous and dangerous concentration of political power. It’s the only proper path forward if we wish to avoid domestic war.
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Okay, then adapt it to "King Joe" Biden then!
 

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To everyone who has mulled this situation over, I'm so sorry to have to be bearer of bad news.
Ref. 2nd amendment, and all the others, they mean exactly that the Courts, up to and including the
Supreme Court, say they mean. You don't have to agree with them, but they can make or break a law.
 

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The big problem with Conservatives is that as a whole we are generally law abiding and are very slow to take action. We also have certain morals and values that we are very determined to hang on to. We go to work, church and see to our families. We love our country and traditions, culture and history. We avoid having to take welfare if we can work.
The Democrats have always leaned a little socialistic but nothing like today. They don’t want a chicken in every pot, they want the farm. These people cold never build a farm on their own. We have about 100yrs of examples to see that.
Biden is going to collapse the country. Is this the goal? The whole idea of Marxist radical take over if to overcome the system. If we collapse there will have to be reorganization. The Constitution would be lost in the reorganization. I try to figure out the why so I can understand these policies that go opposite the people regardless of party. Whatever it is, we are approaching point that action is going to have to be taken.
The Government is under complete Democrat control. What little power the Repbs in Senate have with the filibuster is going to be done away with. They lied about it. They knew all the time they were going to kill the filibuster. That’s it, clean sweep from that point on. With the speed they have put their policies into effect they will not hesitate when they get the chance. They are racing against the clock. The voters will have a voice in 2022. Our voice will be wiped out if they can get their agenda into action before elections. They are just one election away from basically one party rule for the near future.
It’s a big step both ways. It is a big game of chicken and we better not swerve out of the way.
Not sure if external (Australian) views count, but I'll give them anyway. I count myself as right wing politically. And a very keen shooter for what it worth. Conservatives in USA must have done something wrong to make those democrats you despise appealing to the centre. Figure out what it was. Stop doing it. And then half the centre will come back to you.
 

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I think that these people(government) need to be reminded that they are employees of the people and not the other way around. We need term limits to get rid of these useless wastes of space that have been infringing on our rights for decades.
 

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Not sure if external (Australian) views count, but I'll give them anyway. I count myself as right wing politically. And a very keen shooter for what it worth. Conservatives in USA must have done something wrong to make those democrats you despise appealing to the centre. Figure out what it was. Stop doing it. And then half the centre will come back to you.
The reason that Democrats won the election was not policy. My self there is no doubt in my mind that every type of voter fraud was used. But put that aside, that’s just my personal opinion. Trump had 2020 won, Dems didn’t have anyone to run. The Social Media oligarchs decided to resurrect Biden & Harris and buy the election for the Dems. Add this to the unconstitutional changes to several states voting regs and you wonder why Trump lost. Short answer, he didn’t. It will all come out down the road but it’s doing us no good now. I look for some Dem to get screwed over and not get their “reward”, and rat out the rest of them.
Meanwhile the Social Media are our biggest enemies. Along with the networks and other hi tech billionaires. They are the ones calling the shots, Biden & DNC are just pawns. I works out well for them, most Americans only know the faces of the CEOs. The rest of the Commie mob goes under the radar. They are free to float around in public, not like Conservatives that were hounded 24/7. 7E9F3A99-AD2E-4CB6-9D85-721372D9768E.jpeg
 

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Ah...9th Circuit Court - the most liberal, 'anti-American' Circuit court in the U.S.
If for no other reason than than, California should be emancipated from statehood and be permitted to become their own country - the rest of America would then able to treat THEM as a foreign nation. If lucky, when the "Big One" (earthquake) hits, the entire state will slide off into the Pacific Ocean and sail westward!

If you think about it, that court would probably have also not found any "Individual Right" to:
1) Freedom of speech
2) Peaceable lawful assembly
3) Redress of grievances with the government
4) Housing of government troops in a private residence without compensation
5) Self-incrimination in a trial
6) Trial by a jury of peers

or
7) Freedom to worship

HOWEVER they would have likely supported the rights of illegal non-citizens to get a driver's license, drive without insurance, receive free heathcare, vote in all elections and collect numerous benefits & entitlements provided through the forced collection of taxes from millions of law-abiding U.S. citizens!

AIN'T AMERICA GREAT?
 

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To everyone who has mulled this situation over, I'm so sorry to have to be bearer of bad news.
Ref. 2nd amendment, and all the others, they mean exactly that the Courts, up to and including the
Supreme Court, say they mean. You don't have to agree with them, but they can make or break a law.
The power of our government resides with the people, who in turn reside in the 50 individual and sovereign states. It is our individual states that actually retain power and control over the government in Washington, D.C.. There never was any intention by our nation’s founders for it to be the reverse, as we have today, courtesy of Mr. Lincoln and a complicit 37th Congress.
Additionally, the individual states retain the right of nullification of any un-Constitutional laws passed and/or supported by the federal judiciary.
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To me, the 2nd Amendment isn't just about firearms, it's the right to self defense with whatever means is at hand from WHATEVER tries to take life or property! Wether it's govt. or criminals, amounts to the same thing these days, trying to take what is mine. Both property and life! YMMV
Once upon a time, before the Civil(?) War, if somebody broke into your house, you were REQUIRED to shoot them! If you didn't, the Sheriff would be asking serious questions on why you didn't!
 

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Corrupt courts that need to be disbarred and fired post haste! Can't even read plain, simple English. Using a English law from the 1850 and not looking at the ratified 1790 Constitution!

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