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Here's a copy of the email response
The response brought me great satisfaction and hope

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New Marlin firearms quality *with picture proof*

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Response (Danny) 03/25/2011 08:38 AM
We are currently putting new quality control measures in place to insure that the quality that is expected from Marlin Firearms can be maintained. We apologize for our growing pains along the way, but all issues are being addressed.
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are these quality issues fixed, if not will they be

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This is the response

Response (Danny) 03/25/2011 08:38 AM
We are currently putting new quality control measures in place to insure that the quality that is expected from Marlin Firearms can be maintained. We apologize for our growing pains along the way, but all issues are being addressed.
 

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Well atleast it's a response from a human, unless "Danny" is a computer
 

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Well atleast it's a response from a human, unless "Danny" is a computer
Vip,

Danny is the same person,, that told me on the Phone that Most people want Plastic Stock's,,, ;D No Joke,

Joe :)
 

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Plastic has no business on a firearm.
 

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Halwg said:
Plastic has no business on a firearm.
Not on lever actions perhaps but the current trend for several years has been towards synthetics. Bolt actions, semi autos, shotguns & pistols are all very commonly stocked & made with plastics. Since Marlin is but a small piece of the FG pie it would make sense for them to say most guys want plastic I think, most guys dont want lever actions. ;)
 

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Not on lever actions perhaps but the current trend for several years has been towards synthetics. Bolt actions, semi autos, shotguns & pistols are all very commonly stocked & made with plastics. Since Marlin is but a small piece of the FG pie it would make sense for them to say most guys want plastic I think, most guys dont want lever actions. ;)
LeverDude,

In My Personal Opinion,, it is more of a Forced Trend,, rather than what WE want.

They only offered the 981T and 981TS 22 Bolt actions with Plastic Stocks,, so Naturally any body that bought one,, wanted a Plastic Stock Right!!!! Wrong,, because they didn't have any other option.

Now they offer the Replacements XT22TR & XT22TSR ~ You guessed it it Plastic. So Everyone wants them in Plastic Right... Wrong Again.

We just ran a poll in the RimFire Section,, and out of everyone that Voted,, only 2 wanted a Plastic Stock!!! But Most of us want Plastic Right.

I called Marlin,, Spoke to "Danny",, and Told him about the Poll,, and also told him I wanted the XT22TSR in Walnut. His Reply,, We here in Marlin Owner's are Traditionalist's,, and don't Represent the Buying Public's Trend!!!

I say That is a Bunch of Brain Washing Crap,, cause I see it over and over again,, One's wanting to buy the Only Bolt Action Tube Fed Magazine Gun that will handle S, L, & LR Still being Manufactured,, with a Walnut or at least some form of "WOOD" Stock.

If the only choice that is offered is in Plastic,, then Yes,, OverWhelming Everybody wants to Buy Plastic ~ What other Choice do they have. It's nothing more than a Forced Trend to make everybody else Figure that Plastic is Better.

I hate Plastic on Guns with a Passion,
Joe :)
 

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I may be a hard case but, I think plastic on a lever gun is just wrong! I can see if someone wants to have an all weather gun but, that is what laminates are for. I don't like laminate as well as walnut but it is better than plastic. ;)
 

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Here is the vision of the new Marlington levergun complete with plastic stocks! :eek: ;D
 

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The whole plastic stock thing is totaly profit drive. Theres no fitting or checkering or anything involving hand work on a pastic stock. When I bought my Tikka T3 I had to special order one to get it with a laminate stock. It just feels better than a piece of plastic, plus I know that it had to be had fitted to the action. S.
 

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Leverdude said:
Not on lever actions perhaps but the current trend for several years has been towards synthetics. Bolt actions, semi autos, shotguns & pistols are all very commonly stocked & made with plastics. Since Marlin is but a small piece of the FG pie it would make sense for them to say most guys want plastic I think, most guys dont want lever actions. ;)
And that is why I won't buy any. I have a Savage 22 Mag with the plastic stock and every time I look at it I gag. I'm probably going to either sell it or replace the stock with a wooden one. I can live with some of the pleasing looking laminated stocks, but the plastic is as ghastly as see-through mounts!

All it is is a way for the gun manufacturers to make more money. They haven't lowered the price of the guns, but now instead of putting on an expensive piece of walnut, they put on a $3.00 plastic stock and get the same price. And we. the gun buying public, have fallen for it. It's sad.
 

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And that is why I won't buy any. I have a Savage 22 Mag with the plastic stock and every time I look at it I gag. I'm probably going to either sell it or replace the stock with a wooden one. I can live with some of the pleasing looking laminated stocks, but the plastic is as ghastly as see-through mounts!

All it is is a way for the gun manufacturers to make more money. They haven't lowered the price of the guns, but now instead of putting on an expensive piece of walnut, they put on a $3.00 plastic stock and get the same price. And we. the gun buying public, have fallen for it. It's sad.

He's right!

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I have a couple of rifles that I removed the plastic stocks and put on a bedded Hogue stock. It is rubber overlay over fiberglass with aluminum embedding but it feels good, looks better than plastic and really improves the accuracy of the rifles. I too hate the plastic. I know that Howa is now putting the Hogue on some of their rifles.
 

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Putting a synthetic stock on a lever action is ridiculous. It will not appeal to the lever gun market. It is a cost saving / profit boosting move and nothing more.

I jumped on the synthetic band wagon when they came out and have since gone back to wood or laminate.

Synthetic stocks have their place and specific applications when light weight and all weather ability is the number one consideration, but the truth is that the theromoplastic spork that comes on most factory rifles is pure garbage.

The real reason they are on every rifle is a business decision, based on the fact that they are cheaper to manufacture!
 

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Putting a synthetic stock on a lever action is ridiculous. It will not appeal to the lever gun market. It is a cost saving / profit boosting move and nothing more.

I jumped on the synthetic band wagon when they came out and have since gone back to wood or laminate.

Synthetic stocks have their place and specific applications when light weight and all weather ability is the number one consideration, but the truth is that the theromoplastic spork that comes on most factory rifles is pure garbage.

The real reason they are on every rifle is a business decision, based on the fact that they are cheaper to manufacture!
CCB,

Well finally what you said made my So Small Of A Mind,, Finally See... :)

They put Plastic on The 22's to keep them Cheap,, so therefore,, they don't think that their Gun's are built well enough to deserve a Walnut Stock. :-\

I thought that the 981T, 981TS,, and now the XT22TR, XT22TSR were built well enough to deserve a Walnut Stock.

I was wrong though,, and I have to Face The Facts,, that is what the Manufacturer is trying to tell me.

So if the Gun's Got a Plastic Stock,, Best for me to wait until the Manufacturer decides to put a Walnut Stock on it,, telling me that it is worthy for me to spend my hard earned money on it,

I'll Just Wait For The Wood Please,
Joe :'(
 

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Lots of older guns out there with real wood and steel. Too many for me to bother with plastic.
 

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Having a gun worthy of a walnut stock is one thing but would you put a pair of plastic boots that look like leather and have rubber spurs on to go to a rodeo in Wyoming or anywhere real leather is know for what it is ? How about a plastic squirt gun that is shaped like a 1911 acp for a police backup piece ?

Somethings are just not appropriate. That is why they made the SKS's,AR's , and other EBG's. Who cares what they look like. I can only think of the SKS that they found in Sadom Hessian's palace. It had some of the rarest of woods, gems, and materials on them, probably thousands of dollars of materials for a EBG. Now that is even more outlandish.
 
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