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Hey everyone. So I have my buddies 336 30-30to clean up. Not a serial number anywhere to be found. Thoughts?
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Many times on this forum I have read
"make it your own". Obviously someone personalized it and "made it their own"
Not my liking, but wouldn't mind knowing the history behind it.
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Just my opinion but while this is understandably hard on the eyes, Id actually like it very much if the work were exquisitely done instead of hacked on with a camp axe by a 4 year old and such beautiful work would trump checkering anytime.

This strongly reminds me of a clay model of a human head I recently threw away. It was the first clay project I ever did, i think I was seven or eight, and I was so proud of it. Seeing it today, grotesque, with its disproportions and ill-conceived goals, I wondered what I was thinking. Sad and painful to look at, it had to go. Thats what we've got here.
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Those are runes. The text seems to be English.
"out of a ...eless world
shadows fall ... time
from a ..."
The internet knows everything. The trick is in getting lucky with a search engine. It would seem to be a George William Russell quote:
Out of a timeless world
Shadows fall upon Time,
From a beauty older than earth
A ladder the soul may climb.
I climb by the phantom stair
To a whiteness older than Time.
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I'm surprised they didn't sel-engrave the scope! Is that mess on the receiver Greek, or runes?
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Interesting,

But yes its most likely on the tang under the tape behind the trigger
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Henry recently had a Native American artist and hunter do a custom job on one of their 45-70s and auctioned it off to support a hunter charity. While the 336 in question is not in the same league, I see where they were going (sort of). I look at it as “what’s done is done” and in its own way it’s unique. I hate it FAR less than any tactical BS lever build. I wouldn’t do it to one of my guns, but it’s not like this was a priceless and irreplaceable gun to begin with. I took a brand new factory Henry and stripped all the finish off the furniture and the receiver cover to make it look more vintage (seen below with my 112 year old Winchester). It looks pretty cool in my eyes and since it was a one of tens of thousand or more gun, I give zero craps about it.


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I made it mine with the stainless big loop leaver and stainless loading ramp
BUT that gun is too much for me
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Taliesen1 said:
Hey everyone. So I have my buddies 336 30-30to clean up. Not a serial number anywhere to be found. Thoughts?
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I'm a retired now Gunsmith (former USAF) and Lever Actions repair and restore was one of my specialties. I have never seen a Marlin of ANY model ever original from the Factory without a Serial Number.

My 1951 366C full length rifle barrel model has the SN on the "Tang" under the Lever, right behind the trigger, where, as far as I know, Marlin has always put them.

If yours looks "filed off" there, you got a stolen rifle, and it's Illegal to own any gun (not classified as an antique) without a SN. Get caught, and your Wife or Girlfriend will be writing you letters to a Federal Prison address.

If it ain't there, the grade-school art class drop out the owned it before, stole it or bought it stolen, filed off the SN's and put that Electrical Tape there to hide the file marks.
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If the rifle was an older 336... The original S/N was on the trigger plate tang, under the lever, not the receiver. Technically, it was a serial number, but the receiver was not serialized.

IF some fine soul converted it to a straight stock model, they may have simply replaced the trigger plate, lever, and stock. A later model trigger plate would not have any serialization, as it was moved to the receiver.

Thanks.
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Redthies
Taliesen1 said:
Not a serial number anywhere to be found. Thoughts?
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Have you pulled the electrical tape off yet???
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Jeeper44mag said:
Well.... never seen one like THAT before.

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And I’d just as soon not see another
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44magLeo
I don't know about the 336 rifles but my 1894 has the serial # on the top tang. Makes it hard to use the old style Marbles tang peep sight. These cover the #, and the holes for mounting would go into some of the digits.
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TUNG OIL!! You're NUTS to use anything else!! I've refined my 1951 336C 22" three times. But I don't beat it against rocks, either! (no dents or chips, I use a scabbard on my back for hunting)

My Grandfathers 1921 1892 Winchester in 25-20 (I've rebarrelled it twice it's been shot so many times

1951 Marlin 336C 22" barrel rifle in 35 Remington with the Leopold 4-9x Scope off; 3rd Tung Oil refinish in 55 years since my grandfather bought it for me used hardly shot. My MAIN hunting rifle, from Arizona Javelina to Idaho and Canadian Black and Brown Bears and Big Horn Sheep, ONE shot knock downs.
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TUNG OIL!! You're NUTS to use anything else!! I've refined my 1951 336C 22" three times. But I don't beat it against rocks, either! (no dents or chips, I use a scabbard on my back for hunting)

My Grandfathers 1921 1892 Winchester in 25-20 (I've rebarrelled it twice it's been shot so many times

1951 Marlin 336C 22" barrel rifle in 35 Remington with the Leopold 4-9x Scope off; 3rd Tung Oil refinish in 55 years since my grandfather bought it for me used hardly shot. My MAIN hunting rifle, from Arizona Javelina to Idaho and Canadian Black and Brown Bears and Big Horn Sheep, ONE shot knock downs.
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Period factory finishes for your guns:
Your 1921 Winchester would have had lacquer finish with a wax base. Deluxe Winchester wood had a tung/linseed oil blend.
The 1951 Marlin was likely varnished. If not, oil finished with linseed oil.

Tung oil has it's advantages; linseed oil does also.
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