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Hello all...

Been a long time reader of this web site and signed up last night after I talked myself (and my wife) into getting a 336

Lots of talk here about picking up a used one and might save a bunch off of what Cabela's, Gander Mountain, & others would want retail: $529 for the 336C

Two quick questions/comments:
  1. Problem is that I have no idea what to look for in a used rifle and can see myself getting ripped off easily
  2. Saw many comments regarding the older Marlins - with a JM stamp. What is the problem with a newer Marlin vs the older originals exactly?
Any good reason not to pick up a new 336 for a guy like who is unfamiliar with this firearm?

I've seen used-pricing ranging from $200 and up but I can't make a call as to why one is cheaper than another (aside from the obvious wear, scratches, ....)

Thanks in advance for any insight
 

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Check your local Gun/pawn shops, look for the JM stamp on the barrel just in front of the receiver. If the gun looks unabused and the action functions smoothly and a look down the bore with a bore light looks good you pretty much cant go wrong. Currently clean .30-30 336 Marlins are selling in the $325-425 range and of course you want as good a deal as you can find but I think anything in that range is a fair price. Some of the newer Remington mfg Marlins often have quality control issues with fit finish and function.
 

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The problem with a used gun is that you don't know how well it will shoot and function until you've already bought it. Not often will you be able to try out a gun before you buy it.

The problem with a new gun is the same. But it comes with a warranty.

In a perfect world, a new 336 would be the way for you to go. But if you read enough on this forum, you'll find that buying a new Marlin and getting a really good gun isn't exactly a slam dunk.

I don't want to steer you away from a 336 Marlin but Browning makes lever actions, too, and they seem to be of much higher quality. For a new shooter, that may be a safer bet.
 

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I bought a new Marlin 336 in 2012 and after 3 returns to Remington for a very sticky lever action, they replaced it as per my request. The 336C that they sent me in Dec. 2012 has very nice fit and finish, loads, shoots and ejects well and is more accurate than the one that was sent back. I recently bought a used Marlin 336 for my son with a JM stamp manufactured in 2009 that shows like new. The gun loads, shoots and ejects like clockwork. I would gladly buy either gun in my possession over again but obviously not the one that was returned. I would highly recommend that you ask a family member or friend who is familiar with lever actions to help you find and look over a new or used Marlin before purchasing it. A new Marlin comes with a warranty and in my case, Remington made good on the warranty through replacement. I am very happy with the Marlin 336C replacement.
 

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Thank you for the input... It's such a shame that a great tradition like this rifle can be messed up after so many years.

I'm just not seasoned enough to be comfortable examining a used rifle on my own and I'm not acquainted with anyone, either in the family or outside, who has any interest or enough knowledge to help

I checked the Brownings, and they don't appear the have a 30-30 although they are a great looking firearm

Any thoughts on the Henry models?
 

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Any thoughts on the Henry models?
I was just about to mention Henry. Henry's are great guns and have a proven record on customer service, if ever needed. The main difference is they are Tube Fed instead of having a Side Loading Gate. I would buy a used JM Marlin myself, but if you definitely want a brand new gun, Henry would be a great choice. There is even a Henry site that you could join for more info if you would like.

Welcome to the site by the way.

Bill
 

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Henry makes a really nice looking 30-30 lever gun, and at a fair price. Made in America too! Everyone here loves our Marlins, but if you read the signatures, most of us own rifles other than Marlins too.

Welcome to the Forum. Its a great place to hang out, no matter what kind of Lever Gun you own. There's so much knowledge here, you will learn something every time to stop by if you take the time to read through the Active Topics, read up on Reloading or check out the caliber or manufacturer specific threads. Lots to learn, so little time. :idea:




Cheers!



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Ferggadabout Henry and new Remington stamped marlin rifles. Find a used Marlin without the cross bolt safety that is not visably beaten or rusted up on the out side an buy it for $300 or less. Look at the screws; if they are really buggered, take $50 off the price. If the gun has not been "improved" by a kitchen table gunsmith and is not rusted shut, you will find that it will serve you well. I doubt that you will find any of the older Marlins to function or shoot badly. JM; buy with confidence.
 

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Thanks for the welcomes...

Pass on Henry - didn't realize it was tube fed. Can't say why but I much prefer the idea of a side load.

So back to the 336 (that's a good thing)

Interesting: what's the issue with the cross bolt safety? Was just looking at one - JM on barrel, looked well cared for and came with 200 rounds but had the cross bolt safety. Stay away from that?

How involved is it to "refurbish" the 336? If I were to find a used one that needed some love, are parts readily available?

I have a Mod 60 that I've been playing with for about a year... Nothing fancy - just sanding/polishing the action and stuff.

Different firearm, I know, but is the 336 something that can be spruced up without breaking the bank?
 

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True that Browning doesn't sell a .30-30 but theirs can be had in .308 which is a superior caliber in all regards. There isn't anything that a .30-30 can do that a .308 can't do better. Plus the BLR is magazine fed so it has no problem with spitzer (pointed) bullets.
 

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I have had really good luck finding exactly what I am looking for at fair prices on Gunbroker.com. I have never had any issues with Marlins from the 50's and newer that I have bought. They usually have 200-300 model 336's listed in 30/30 or 35 caliber. Good luck.
 

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William... You've made a number of purchases on gunbroker? That's reassuring. Earlier posting about watching for rust and messed up screws makes perfect sense and I'm can handle that easily enough.

With the transfers and shipping, I figure that's another $100 or so on top of the price

I'll keep looking there and reading through these forums

I did like that the look of that 336 I mentioned earlier but that cross bolt safety sounds like a deal killer?
 

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Hello and welcome to Marlinowners from Louisiana!!!!I can't add to nothing that hasn't already been said!!!! Good Luck
 

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Welcome Finz!

Here's my two cents worth.

First, the crossbolt safety is not necessarily a deal killer. Some folks just don't like them :)

Second, I have found most guys on this site to be straight shooters. We all love our Marlin's. I would suggest you watch the "For Sale" section here on MO and get one from a member that looks nice and is described as functioning perfectly.

I have yet to be let down with anything I have bought from a member here. Try that approach and you'll probably end up with a dandy rifle.

RD
 

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Fins wake... welcome to the forum!!! you asked about working on and modifying a 336.. I am a relatively new Marlin and rifle owner, just getting into shooting... the 336 is a simple action to take down, clean and adjust... the folks who engineered and built the action obviously held simplicity of design in high regard...

I can't speak to the safety as mine does not have one... someasay they like them, others don't... the safety can be replaced with a delete kit if it is not to your liking...

as far as fit and finish, check that the wood to metal fit is good... the wood and metal should come together without visible gaps (even a gap of 1/16 or so is plainly visible)... the tang and reciever joint to the butt stock should be flush (the metal should be no higher or lower than the wood)... make sure the stock and fore end are tight with no wobble... Like others said, a rifle with clean screw heads has probably been cared for (or never disassembled)...

purchase a bore light and take it with you to look at the bore... if it is bright and clean, it's a good sign the gun was cared for.. minor rust on the metal can be cleaned up fairly easy... scratches and dents in the wood are character marks IMO... and they can be removed and refinished fairly simply if you enjoy a bit of woodworking and finishing...

as I ramble on with early morning brain, I recall that one of our esteemed members (former employee at Marlin) put all this together in a previous post found here:

http://www.marlinowners.com/forum/new-reference-material/39549-buying-used-marlin-tomray.html

I say go for the Marlin.. whether a JM stamped or one of the new Rem made in good shape will be a joy to own, shoot and pass along to the next generation of shooters...

enjoy the search and enjoy the rifle!!!
 
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Try Armslist, there is a dealer in Arizona [I think] that had 4 new 30-30 Marlins for 300.00 each. Your shipping and FFL charges should be from 50.00 - 70.00, 100.00 is outrageous. Even being Remlins for the price you can buy new stocks and have what you want for a very good price. Or just buy one and send it back to Remlin if it is bad, at 300 I could send it back a few times.

Something to consider, the crossbolt safety. Is it bad or is it because it makes their beloved Marlin different ? I feel most don't like it because it is different and we humans don't like changes.

You should really open your eyes to the Henry. They are a very well made gun that at this time Marlin can only dream of and you get a LIFETIME warranty. That means when you leave it to your grand children and something is wrong with it they will fix it FREE. And it has a GOOD trigger already and the lever action functions beautifully. And the fear of a tube feed has got to be the biggest joke. Again it is different from a centerfire Marlin, that does not make it bad. How many of you have or have had a gun with a tube feed ? I'll bet most of us have and you were fine with it then. Plus you don't have the scratched up receiver from trying to feed the ugly loading gate on the side of your receiver. :biggrin:
 

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Thank you for the input... It's such a shame that a great tradition like this rifle can be messed up after so many years.

I'm just not seasoned enough to be comfortable examining a used rifle on my own and I'm not acquainted with anyone, either in the family or outside, who has any interest or enough knowledge to help

I checked the Brownings, and they don't appear the have a 30-30 although they are a great looking firearm

Any thoughts on the Henry models?
My only experience with a Henry is one of their .22's. The workmanship is superb! They break down easily for cleaning from the chamber unlike a Winchester 94. Accuracy with the right ammunition is on par with any well made .22 rifle. I would imagine workmanship and quality is on par for their center fires. They do load different, unlike the Marlin's side loading through the receiver port, the Henry center fires load through the magazine tube like a .22 rifle. Welcome to the forums!
 

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I greatly appreciate all of the help and input. Even had a PM from a member giving me a heads up a local shop I should keep my eye on.

In retrospect, that tube fed comment was snobbish, I suppose. My Mod 60 is tube fed and has never been an issue and the Henry's are what caught my eye as a lever action to begin with. The Lifetime Warranty is a huge plus (forgot about that)...

Suppose now I'll have have to buy both...?! Officially addicted now

Easy enough to check the For Sale section here... Wasn't even aware this existed.

Thanks, too, for the review highlights and link Papa Vid - very helpful

I'll keep an eye on Armslist also... Figured there had to more that just Gunbroker and now I have another lead

You already know what a great and helpful site this is but I'll say it anyway - this place is great. You all have been very generous with your comments and it's greatly appreciated

I'll keep this thread updated with my progress and please keep those cards and letters coming - as was mentioned, I'm learning a great deal from some great folks

Thanks again and have a great day
 
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