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At the risk of hurting someones feelings and being run out of town on a rail, I'm seeing a trend on MO of members letting everybody here (at the forums) know about every desirable Marlin they see on internet auction sites. I know this probably stems from wanting to share these great rifles with each other, but aren't we perpetuating the risng prices everyone is bellyaching about? I mean one day its "check out this cool rifle, I can't afford it, but I thought everyone else might be able to and....." and the next day, "I can't believe these prices, I shore am glad I got mine 7 years ago and paid $200.00 fer it" Maybe we ought to let them sleeping dogs lie and let the everybody who really wants to buy one do their own looking, might keep the prices down.
I am sure this is going to get a lot of responses, so don't let me down!!

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No offense taken as mine was not an auction. Unless, of course, it was specifically intended for me, then offense taken. ; )

I agree, but I don't have time to search them all, so sometimes they help me. Been on both sides. Mark me down as on the fence. First time I get burned bad, them I'm 100% with you.

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What percentage of the Marlin buying public are represented here? I'm guessing it's pretty small. And just because someone shows us something for sale it doesn't mean we are going to bid unless it's worth it to us. I guess I don't think it's a problem. My guess is it doesn't have a huge effect on overall prices.
 

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No offense taken as mine was not an auction. Unless, of course, it was specifically intended for me, then offense taken. ; )

I agree, but I don't have time to search them all, so sometimes they help me. Been on both sides. Mark me down as on the fence. First time I get burned bad, them I'm 100% with you.

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Sarge, purely coincidental, this was intened as a general comment with no offense directed at anyone. I had read about four "hey look...." earlier today and have been in this type of conversation a couple of times. It's ok by me, but those prices keep on going up especially for certain models.
 

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I appreciate posts that bring attention to sales elsewhere. If it were my gun for sale and someone put the word out, I would benefit. If I bought one of them, I would be happy to have found it, with their help. If I am interested in an auction, I will not put the word out, leaving others to find it on their own. Prices are what they are. Cowboys are selling high because they are fine guns. They originally sold high so they should re-sell high.

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I see no problem with letting other Marlin fans know about rifles for sale, let the market go where it goes.
 

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The prices are getting absurd. But I think the driving factor is the changes at Marlin. And the at least perceived difference in the quality since Remington took over. I don't think it's the "Look Ma! Another Marlin on..." posts as much as it is the "Remington Sucks!" and "It's not a real Marlin" posts, that are driving the price up.
 

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I had this banter going in another post , where members were saying they hoped no other member would bid against the person who originally gave the link, then gave up on bidding and then later said his son wanted it and so on and so forth. It just seemed that if the guy wanted so bad to begin with, he would not have shown it to a bunch of crazed gun nuts who all want a CBL with a 24" barrel. He did not win the auction.
So again, this is merely an observation on the state of the internet.
 

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AINT NO FISH

Life ain't fair....cuz if it were I'd been born rich instead of good looking. The reality is there are a whole lot of other gun forums with guys looking for guns, plus the thousands who don't belong to forums. Would I like to be the only guy bidding on every auction I find? You betcha! But that wouldn't happen even if every MO member never bought another Marlin.

While I appreciate your effort to protect the 'MO family', I don't know how effective those efforts would be. I think we might be better served to keep a low profile and if you win an auction don't flaunt it so much. That's when the feelings get hurt, when it's rubbed in your face that you got beat by a fellow member.

If I find a sweet deal that's just not my cup of tea I don't mind sharing the love, but from here on out I'll lay low, so I don't hurt someone's feelings.

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City Slicker said:
AINT NO FISH

Life ain't fair....cuz if it were I'd been born rich instead of good looking. The reality is there are a whole lot of other gun forums with guys looking for guns, plus the thousands who don't belong to forums. Would I like to be the only guy bidding on every auction I find? You betcha! But that wouldn't happen even if every MO member never bought another Marlin.

While I appreciate your effort to protect the 'MO family', I don't know how effective those efforts would be. I think we might be better served to keep a low profile and if you win an auction don't flaunt it so much. That's when the feelings get hurt, when it's rubbed in your face that you got beat by a fellow member.

If I find a sweet deal that's just not my cup of tea I don't mind sharing the love, but from here on out I'll lay low, so I don't hurt someone's feelings.

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Well I just figured the guys would like to see the Marlins we don't see everyday that are for sale. We all love to see new?, old?, odd, fairly priced? Marlins...

Of course if I have the money you won't see the ads until I am posting pics of my new rifle ;D
 

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I have had a couple of times that a rifle I was bidding on was announced here on the forum by another member and the bids started to pour in. The thing is, we think we are the only ones who look at this forum. Well guess again, all you have to do is do a search on a rifle and in a blink of an eye you have that announcement here on MO in the search list. I know because I have done it several times. I also see announcements from other forums and some spread like wildfire if it is an unusual and highly sought after rifle. The internet is a supercharged announcer if you are looking for something, the more desirable, the more hits and it moves up the list. Popular searches can and do bring up a lot of forum postings and some of the reasons I found this forum when I started looking for that special rifle.

If I were going to sell a rifle on Gunbroker I would post it on this forum and a few others and anyone searching for that model would probably come across it in the search results. Now just like bait on a hook the wider the scent is cast the better the chance of a catch.
 

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lesismore, you make a good point and I'll think differently before I post one of those "check this rifle for sale out" posts again.
 

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I've done it myself. Saw a rifle I'd have REALLY liked to have but the price was borderline high for my budget. I'd kinda decided against it so I posted a link here and it got a huge response with one person wanting it bad. Funny part was that I'd really had no intention of bidding when I posted it and I think I even said it was out of my range on that post but after reading all the Ooooh's and aaaaah's about it and how it was such a desirable rifle, THEN I wanted it but it went for a couple hundred more than it probably would have had I just kept my mouth shut. No big deal though really as it saved me a good chunk of money and I am certain that the fella who bought it REALLY appreciates it and will take good care of it. As it stands, that money is now holding a Marlin Cowboy Carbine ltd in 32-20 of which only 501 were made so..... thanks buddy for buying that other gun!

I look at it about the same as walking into a bar before hunting season and bragging about the great big buck you saw and that you plan to shoot "over on the ________ farm" (Insert location of your choice) and then come opening day there are a bunch of guys hunting in your spot who just happened to be in the bar...

Or, maybe you're a single fella and you stop someplace like a diner and meet a really hot lookin' waitress who is awfully friendly and you tell a couple buddies about her. Come the weekend, one or your buddies shows up at the club with this waitress on his arm and you feel cheated.

If you find something you really want to keep for yourself, ya can't blab it to everyone until AFTER you get it. I guess all's fair in love, war and gun auctons...
 

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I do not see an issue with posts on MO pointing to handguns or rifles on the WEB. I have looked at some and considered bidding in some cases but letting a few MO folks know something is available is in no way going to affect prices. Those auctions already attract many more people than MO owners and as has already been pointed out in this thread - the cost of REAL MARLINS is going up because of the poor guns Remington is putting out now. If you look at the retail prices of the REMLINS they are the same now as they were before Remington took over.

"Life ain't fair...." can be said about many things - I received numerous such responses when I posted a couple weeks ago that I bought (TWO) North Haven built 1894 CSS .357 Marlins ON THE SAME DAY from two different sources when there are many folks out there begging for just one. . . . . . "SE LA VIE"

 

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mattusmc and dave bulla

I think you got the point of my post. I hear what everybody's saying, but I don't announce where my absolute favorite fishing spot is at the bait and tackle, it just don't make sense.
 

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Now when you talk NUMBERS for fishing spots you talkin' 'nuther world my friend! I know folks who won't tell their favrite brother xactly where the fishin' hole in the Gulf is!

Boat came in with a load of Grouper one day and we asked, "Where?"

Answer, "Go out East from the Crystal River Power about 30 minutes then drop the anchor and you will be in the middle of 'em."

Do you know how many nautical miles of area "about 30 minutes out" covers?

I know a guy keeps all his way points on a memory stick tied around his neck. He sleeps with it on. I bet he even bathes with it!

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The other thing is, it's not uncommon for an item to be listed in a way that most searches will not find it.

For example, maybe I'm looking specifically for a certain reloading die. Maybe a xxx brand and yyy size. I do searches every couple days on the net looking for that die with no luck. Then one day I'm looking at more general stuff and happen to find that die in a group sale of three dies and the auction title has no mention of any of the sizes. You have to look in the text to get that info and if you didn't know what you were looking for you'd never find it. Neither do the collectors with the deep pockets. Go to your favorite website and brag that you found xxx in size yyy for sale at ________ and a feeding frenzy takes place almost instantly. If you'd kept your mouth shut, you could have PROBABLY gotten it at nearly yard sale prices. Instead, it goes at a premium way beyond your own range because two different collectors decided they just HAD to have it. And yes, I've had it happen to me. Double yes, I've learned my lesson.

I figure once you make information available to others, it's fair game. If I get lucky and find something misposted on auction for a great price, I keep an eye on it, bid at the last instant and hope for the best. If I find something cool but that I have no interest in buying, I'll gladly pass it along.
 

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Hey I got an idea, why not have a new category in the "Heads Up" section at the beginning of the forums that everybody can relay the latest rifle they've found anywhere and announce it to the membership, so we don't have to wade through all these other forums to get the message. They could leave a link, item number, the whole works and then we could just about have a one stop shopping place!!!!!! Think of it, you wouldn't have to spend all that time on GunBroker or anywhere else!!!
 
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