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I haven't been able to find Hodgdon's LVR powder locally, but the weather's nice enough here that I'd like to see what it does for the 35 Rem.

I'm currently using 35Remington's load: 42g AA2520 under 220 Speer for 2,200 fps. A great load, but the pressure is high. I thought we might get close to that with LVR under less pressure (more case life). If any of you guys have tried it yet, I'd love to know how it went.

The 200 gr FTX listed below ought to be very similar in pressure and velocity to the 220 Speer, as the bullets are seated at nearly the same depth in the case, the 20 grains in the Speer being lost mostly to the flex tip in the FTX (which was pointed out to me by 35Remington in this forum as I was working up my AA2520 load). Notice the FTX listed below gets 2,116 fps at 34,700 CUP. The ceiling for the .30-30 (which is the pressure ceiling used for the AA2520 load listed above) is a little higher.

Once the velocity with LVR is pushed to 2,200 fps, the pressure might be as high as it is with AA2520 or higher. But it's worth looking into.

In the end, 2,116 fps (the load listed below) is a great hunting load, especially if I can get that with the 220 Speer, which I use for elk. And if the load gives the near-infinite case life of other 35 Rem loads then there would be little to complain about. With velocity over 2,100 fps, long case life, and good accuracy, I'd likely make the switch.

Let us know what you guys have learned about this powder in the Marlin 336 in 35 Rem. Thanks!

From Hodgdon's website:

Cartridge: 35 Remington
Load Type: Rifle

Bullet Weight (Gr.) Manufacturer Powder Bullet Diam. C.O.L. Grs. Vel. (ft/s) Pressure Grs. Vel. (ft/s) Pressure
180 GR. SPR FN Hodgdon LVR .358" 2.470" 40.0 2044 26,700 CUP 45.0C 2302 33,900 CUP
200 GR. HDY FTX Hodgdon LVR .358" 2.520" 37.0 1897 26,500 CUP 41.4C 2116 34,700 CUP
200 GR. HDY RN Hodgdon LVR .358" 2.510" 42.0 2040 25,600 CUP 45.0C 2235 31,200 CUP
 

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Re: Hodgdon Hornady LEVERevolution Smokeless Powder

I just picked up some of the powder for the 30-30 and my 35 Rem also. Once I get the 200gr Rem CLRN's in, I plan on doing some good load work with both of the rifles. Seems like it should be a good powder if the rifles like it. It meters like water. So far I have loaded up some 170gr Sierra's in the 30-30, but am waiting for the 35 Rem components to get here. Scotty
 

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It's interesting that Hornady does NOT list Hodgdon's LVR as a powder choice for the 35 Rem and their 200gr FTX bullet on their load data website. They say that "VIHT N-135 delivered excellent velocities and exceptional accuracy from our test rifle." Maybe they produced that load data before LVR was available.

Hodgdon, on the other hand, lists LVR as one of six powders to use with the 35 Rem and the 200gr FTX bullet.
 

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I've got the 200gr Core Lokts, and Leverevolution so I need some cases and I will load some up and let you know how they work. Scotty
 

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I am looking for the LVR powder to work up loads in both the 30-30 and 35 Rem. Pls post what you guys find out. Plan to use a 170 FN in the 30-30 and Speer 180 in the 35. Thanx
 

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I have a feeling that LVR powder is going to be less than optimal in the 35 Remington. But keep us informed. I'm not rushing out to buy any.
 

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Well, I just ordered the cases and a Williams 5D for my 35 Remington, so I should be loading them up early next week. I am really looking forward to running the LVR powder over the chrono. I will try and do a decent load work up for the 35 Rem. I have the Lee FCD, and RCBS dies, so I just waiting on cases, which seem pretty scarce these days for some reason. Scotty
 
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Looking forward to seeing your results. ;)
 

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Me too! HA. I am actually pretty excited to work with the 35 Rem in a rifle. I did the load work for my buddies TC Contender 35 Rem and we got an easy 1900 out of his 14" barreled pistol with H4895 and 200gr Hornady Spitzers. I am thinking the same powder will work pretty well in the rifle if the LVR doesn't work out well. His was MOA or better out to 200 yards. Scotty
 

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** USUAL WARNINGS APPLY - USE AT YOUR OWN RISK - I CAN'T BE RESPONSIBLE FOR TYPOS, ETC. **

Hornady has LE powder listed for 35 Remington in the 8th edition manual.

Data is for both the FTX and RN bullet. Tested rifle is shown as a 20" barreled 336SC. Cases are shown as Remington with Federal 210 primers.

Charge Velocity
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26.6 gr 1600 fps
29.8 gr 1700 fps
33.0 gr 1800 fps
36.3 gr 1900 fps
39.5 gr 2000 fps
41.1 gr 2050 fps
42.7 gr 2100 fps MAX LOAD

I recall reading somewhere that Hodgdon uses a 24" test barrel on a universal receiver for all their testing. That probably accounts for the differences at the heavier charge weights.
 

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2100 for the FTX seems like a decent load. Should be a pretty sweet load in order to stretch the 35 Rem a little bit. Since I am sticking to peep sights, I am going to stick with FN and RN's for my loads. Got enough other rifles to stretch the range if needed! Scotty
 

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Just got back from my son's house in VA. and while I was there I went online to find a sport store that sells LVR powder. Called a store up and the man suggested going to the gun show at Dulles Expo Center. I checked it out on the computer and only 8 1/2 miles away, so off I went. It was $12. bucks to get in. I started looking around for the LVR and I saw old Marlins 336 with price tags $499.00 and up. I didn't see one honest bargain in the way of firearms. But I did find the powder I was looking for so bought a pound of LVR and a box of ,358" 200gr. FTX.. I already got WLR primers + 200 35 Rem. case. This powder is also good for the W.32spl., 30/30, 308ME. and can work in the 338ME. which I have all 5 and as soon as I can will try it in the 356W. too. I guess I'm off for a good start of spring-summer-fall at the range. I'm going to look into the firing ranges in VA. by my son house a two fold trip visit my granddaughter and grandson to be soon with a little rang time while I'm there. I hear there is a range near Bulls run.

As soon as I work up a load I post with target pictures and data.

T 8) NY
 

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Somebody use it in the 35 Remington so I can see if it's as good as AA2520.
 

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308/338 said:
Just got back from my son's house in VA. and while I was there I went online to find a sport store that sells LVR powder. Called a store up and the man suggested going to the gun show at Dulles Expo Center. I checked it out on the computer and only 8 1/2 miles away, so off I went. It was $12. bucks to get in. I started looking around for the LVR and I saw old Marlins 336 with price tags $499.00 and up. I didn't see one honest bargain in the way of firearms. But I did find the powder I was looking for so bought a pound of LVR and a box of ,358" 200gr. FTX.. I already got WLR primers + 200 35 Rem. case. This powder is also good for the W.32spl., 30/30, 308ME. and can work in the 338ME. which I have all 5 and as soon as I can will try it in the 356W. too. I guess I'm off for a good start of spring-summer-fall at the range. I'm going to look into the firing ranges in VA. by my son house a two fold trip visit my granddaughter and grandson to be soon with a little rang time while I'm there. I hear there is a range near Bulls run.

As soon as I work up a load I post with target pictures and data.

T 8) NY
No experience with le powder but I plan to try it. I currently use imr3031 in my .35 rem

I'm guessing you were visiting northern va? I'm in southern va (yorktown, Newport news) and I must say you have to search unusually hard to find a good deal at any gun show in this state. Also I've always noticed the guys buy the door are always way more expensive. Preying on people as they walk in the door

Don't know too much about northern va ranges. Got a nice private gun club in my area I'm a member of. Lafayete gun club in dare
 

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Well, I have cases on the way and should have some rounds loaded up pretty shortly. I will most definitely put them through the chrono and let you all know what I come up with. I am also in N Va, but I shoot on a friends property. Scotty
 

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Somebody use it in the 35 Remington so I can see if it's as good as AA2520.
Halwg I can't help you out on the velocity, no chronograph, but can print of my finding of pressure and accuracy in my 336XLR-35R. I know 35Remington said that chronographs are cheap and there is no excuse not to own one. But in my location the closes range where I can back my car up to the bench rest is 72 miles away, one way. It would be another thing to lug around at a ranges where the parking lot is a good distance.

So for now my main concern is the action function, press, accuracy. below is the data I'll be basing my range testing on.

200 GR. HDY FTX Hodgdon LVR .358" 2.520" 41.4C 2116 34,700 CUP

HDY. #8 manual, Marlin 336SC, 35R. 20" Barrel Vel. stated 2100 fps. My barrel 24" should be 2220 fps. list charge is MAX at 42.7 gr. which is my goal for the FTX.

I hope to get is done within the month. Yes I know you're already getting 2300 fps. with AA2520. But I got to do this to see how it does. I need closure.

T ;D NY
 

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It's warm enough that we ought to be getting some data from all parts of the country soon. Still can't find LVR locally. Looking forward to what you guys learn.

AA2520 is quite amazing. I'm happy with it. But if I can get within 100 fps of 2,200 fps with less pressure and good accuracy, I'll flirt a bit with LVR. Nothing wrong with a little more case life--all other things being equal.
 

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beretzs, the 200 Hornady Spire Point is an utterly horrible choice in bullets for a .35 Remington Contender pistol. Said by a .35 Remington Contender pistol owner, which would be me.

Replace it with the LE flex tip. At least that one will work correctly.

Given that the LE powder is compressed in its recommended loads, hoped for velocity increases from adding more powder will require more compression. In some instances this does odd things to actual delivered velocities.
 

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Guys, I have posted my results with LVR powder. Extraction was very easy and cases look excellent across the board. I loaded to Hodgdon specs and it seems to be pretty decent. Seemed accurate enough. Then again, it was me shooting with an aperture sight and the Marlins less than friendly front sight (to me). I will be loading more. Compression is not an issue. Scotty

I will look into another bullet for the Contender. Why is the 200gr Spire PT crap? Just wondering. Easy to switch, just wondering.
 

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Recheck your velocity results.....the compression thing I often see looks to be present. See if you can recognize it. Note that I made this comment before I saw your posted velocity results with the powder. I didn't say it would be an issue, just that odd things happen to velocities.

The Hornady spire point opens up very poorly at reduced 35 Remington pistol velocities. The RN Remington is a better option. Or the LE 200.
 
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