[jeffrice6]

So I just took home my new GBL (remington) & have some issues! Not deal breakes, just annoyance......

1. No rear sight!!! The ramp was there, just no buckhorn. Already had sights on order, so not huge
2. Front sight hood was floating around in the box. "
3. Front sight was pushed all but out of the cut. "
4. No hammer spur. Don't need it, but still.
5. Minor scratches throughout.
6. Small dent on mag tube.
7. (Very) Stiff & rough action. Although with all the great info on here she is slicking up!

Like I said, not deal breakers (I've wanted this rifle for sooo long) Just sucks when you lay out the coin for a brand new rifle and you receive it in this condition The GBL was purchased from an online dealer, so I guess it comes with the territory..... Just putting it out there, if you're looking to purchase a new Marlington inspect before you buy!!!

 

[gunners]

Is it just me or are their a much higher percentage of GBL's that are having trouble lately. Just wondering if they have an issue with a production line crew.

 

[eaglesnest]

Wonder how many dovetails this one has.. ??? :

 

[lever addict]

That is sad, very sad! Sorry to hear about it. Call Marlin and make them send you new sights, mag tube and hammer spur!

The GBL's made in North Haven before the closing seem to be fine. Anything made in Ilion...beware!

 

[35REMSHOOTER]

I would send the whole thing back to where you bought it from! And get another one.
You would think the online dealer would have checked the gun over before he shipped it.
You listed 7 things wrong with your "NEW" rifle.... that would be a "deal breaker" for me.
For the money we all pay out for this stuff we shouldn't have to "TAKE WHATEVER WE GET" and live with it and have to deal with all this BS.

Sorry for the rant but I'm so sick of these big company's pumping out this crap and expecting us to just take what we get...... and it's not just firearms.

 

[heavybullets]

Don't feel to bad, I bought two marlins last week, a STBL and a stainless guide gun
I feel fortunate that the STBL was ok while the guide gun would never have been purchased if I had the rifle in hand before paying for it. That seems to be a minus for buying on the net,but as you know, the net is the only way to find a rifle you want . Marlin says they will make it right and have sent a shipping label. They obviously have children as QC people, but maybe not, kids would probably notice the glaring defects that the QC people at Marlin miss. The prices continue to go up as quality goes down. I have had many older marlins and have never seen anything like the stuff that is coming out of their production facilities now--it's sad--we'll see if remington or the parent holding company cares
Heavybullets

 

[zerbe]

This one makes me wonder about this particular online merchant sending out something he couldn't sell locally.

I have a new Remington-Marlin GBL that I got at my local Dick's Sporting goods that, so far, I've found nothing wrong with other than a slightly stiff action that I'm sure will smooth out with either some real use, or possibly a little stoning on my part.

Granted I haven't found a MOA handload for it yet, but it if the first load I tried shot sub-moa, I'd loose some of my excuse to get range time with it.

The one you got sounds to me like it was dropped hard a few times during shipping. I'd start with the merchant you bought it from. These days its much easier to snap digital pictures of the issues/packaging, etc to attach to emails while resolving these sorts of issues.

 

[lever addict]

These guys know what they are sending out! When they recieve guns they do look to verify the serial numbers. It's easier to sell to a consumer and get their money than to have to deal with Remington!

 

[moonbat60]

I would send it back with a letter stating which parts have been missing, what was not working right etc.

It just seems to me that Marlin / Remington is just trying to crank as many rifles out as the can, and quality suffers.

That'll be the demise of another good and respected brand for the sake of some CEOs making their big bucks.


Pete

 

[eaglesnest]

There are simply too many good Marlins out there, both used and NIB from CT that are far better than what Remington is piping out.. My way of thinking, should we be rewarding Cerberus with ruining a great American icon? Should we be rewarding them by buying their shoddy workmanship? They need to be sent a message to start getting it right, stop pumping out crap just to recoup their investment quicker. The gun manufacturing business is an extremely long term proposition, built on decade after decade by good will towards customers, good product built by long term employees who like their jobs and thus care about and show pride in their craftsmanship. These are all things Marlin HAD before Cerberus's bean countin factory closing sob's killed it! Maybe they should have invested in some hi tech video game gizmo's that are here today gone to China tomorrow and left the gun business alone, and well thats about all I have to say about that!

I can see this thing is heading straight for the RANT forum now! :

 

[Blakk]

Might not be a bad idea to contact Cerebus directly with a letter showing your displeasure. Somewhere on these forums I've seen a recent thread about how Cerebus really took care of somebody who had a similar story as yours. And he even got followup calls afterwards insuring he was taken care of and made happy. Something is going on with the QC on these new Marlins Remington is putting out. And the top brass needs to know if there is going to be any hope at all in saving whats left of our wonderful favorite brand.

 

[moofy07]

I mentioned it on the site before are we paying more for less (quality)?

 

[okc-jimbo]

One question here, clearly Remington screws up the rifles, but don't gun dealers look at their product before shipping it out the door? It seems absurd that someone would send a rifle with loose or missing parts.

 

[zerbe]

This sounds to me like its one of two things.
1) the dealer who shipped it is a crook who shipped out a POS so he wouldn't have to deal with Remington to make it right.
2) some UPS employee spotted it for what it was during shipping and was a card carrying PITA member and beat the snot out of the package in transit.

 

[eaglesnest]

I don't buy it that this is a dealer problem, or a shipping problem either. This is a Marlin problem. They have a big money sucking monkey on their backs now.

 

[Bossloper]

I have wanted one of the GBL's, and one of the wholesalers I buy from had a bunch in stock, but as I watched their stock get depleted, I just couldn't bring myself to order one because of all that I have read. So instead, I sent my Marlin made 1895 to Brockman's for some work.

As a dealer, I put this issue on the manufacturer. They send shoddy workmanship to the wholesalers, who in turn pass them on to dealers who are desperately wanting to get them for their customers. When the demand is higher than the supply, people are more tolerant and take what they get, crappy or not, because it's all they can get. It's a sad reality, but it is what it is.

 

[okc-jimbo]

One question here, clearly Remington screws up the rifles, but don't gun dealers look at their product before shipping it out the door? It seems absurd that someone would send a rifle with loose or missing parts.

Let me be clear on my comment above. The root cause of the problem here is obviously Remington/Marlin. They are shipping guns with components that do not meet specs, are poorly assembled, and they have demonstrated little or no control over their production prossess. There is no excuse for this whatsoever. Rather than continuing to delivery sh*t product, they should have suspended distribution and resolved the problems. Yes, that would have caused some short term financial pain and rough quarterly meetings regarding short term profits and ROI, but the long term benefits would have given a better return for the investors in the form of reduced warranty claims and related expenses, industry reputation and customer loyalty. The move to New York make sense from a consolidation perspective to lower costs, but it was clearly handled poorly and without proper assessment of the risks. No real world investor wants the company they put their money into crash and burn - claims to the contrary are usually emotional responses.

Additionally, I do not believe there are left wing shipping thugs who target Marlin firearms. If this were the case, it would be an industry wide problem. Most shipping companies have cameras and other forms of security to observe activity, so there would be evidence by now if this had merit.

The only reason I bring up the distibutor, is because I have not seen a single post where the purchaser has said, " My distibutor didn't want to sell me this rifle becasue it was crappy, but I wanted it anyway..." The discovery and rectification always appears to be left to the purchaser. This is the case with my 1895 STBL I bought in December. I didn't see it until after it was purchased, but I asked enough questions that I should have known there were troubles. If the seller had told me the action locks up when cycled, the screws have chewed up heads, and there is adhesive oozing around the union of the barrel and receiver, I would have not bought the gun. Of course, he had no way of knowing it would not sight in too.

The facts clearly show this is a Marlin problem; however, the dealers and distibutors have not yet shown they are actively working to protect their customers either.

 

[lbk454]

From all the posts here on and on the Marlin 308/338 forum here, I would not buy any new Marlington until there is good confirmation they have gotten their act together. The problems with quality control seem to continue with no end in sight.

 

[tonyl]

Sent my sbl 45-70 back to marlin. after it came back and still had problems I had my gnsmith do it right. yes I could send it back but there is no way marlin will take the time to do it correctly. My gun had many problem, now it works good. with that said, I it will be the last marlin I'll ever own. my next lever gun will be a Henry . THEY TRULY RESPECT THERE CUSTOMERS!!

 

[moonbat60]

Hey tony,

don't spill the baby out with the bath water. You might want to look into buying an older Marlin, as there are still a bunch of them around that were produced when Marlin was Marlin ( not Marlington or Remlin or .... ) .

I almost wanted to buy a .450 GG the other day.


Mine has "only" got issues with the XS Systems lever rail, as I explained in a different thread. Other than that it is a fine gun. Orionginally I wanted an SBL, then looked into a GBL, got on here and settled for a GG.


Pete


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