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Hello all,

I just acquired a Marlin 1895 45/70 govt. rifle from a family member to put in the collection. I have a 30-30 marlin that I have always enjoyed but i know absolutely nothing about 45/70's. I have been doing alot of research on this gun and a few of the changes marlin made during the production with these guns, but I still have some questions on it. Looking at the rifling on my barrell it only has 8 grooves so I am assuming this is what everyone is calling the ballard type rifling. Is my assumption correct?, and is this the better type of rifling for hard cast bullets? I also read somewhere in my hours of research that a (ballard type) barrell on a pre safety gun is not very common, is this true? The first 5 of my serial number are "B0042." I am also curious about ammunition for this gun. Does this gun require a specific type of 45/70 round? "as in only using a lead cast bullet or is copper covered ok." Also does anyone use this gun for deer hunting? As I said I am new to this caliber of gun so I am very inexperienced with it and looking to learn all i can and i would like to say thank you i am very greatful for any help or insight you could provide.
Thanks, Matt


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Welcome to MO

Hey M,

Welcome to MO.

The "BO" indicates a 1972 DOM.:congrats: The year Marlin "re introduced" the 45/70!

There were a couple of rifling "options", that year.

Will perform very well with jacketed bullets, on game or targets:biggrin:

The 300 gr JHP @ 1800 fps, will "roll" venison type critters, like they are bunny rabbits.:flute:

My BO (purchased new, in '75) is a Micro Groove, and will shoot cast bullets very well, as long as I keep the velocity "down" to 1050 fps. (others have been able to "drive" cast bullets to 1500 fps +, in their Micro Groove rifles)

Later, Mark
 

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Welcome to MO, just search 45/70 in Google. It will list many discussion about this rifle here on Marlin Owners.
 
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Welcome to Marlin Owners, I had a BOXXXX Marlin made in 1st. year 1972 and it had the Ballard rifling and it loved cast bullets. eh
 

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Thanks for all the help guys. This sounds like its going to be a fun gun. I like to shoot what i have instead of having a bunch of safe queens. I hope to take it to the field with me this season and put something down with it. Have you all had better luck with any certain kinds of ammunition? I dont reload brass case myself only shotgun so i will have to buy after i shoot what i have up. Thanks again
 

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M first recommendation is enjoy the heck out of it. second is... learn to reload! even if you only get a little handpress kit and a few other essentials you will save a butt load of cash! average price for factory ammo $2 reload average cost 25 cents. oh and welcome to the MO from the motor city. got yourself a case of marlinitis and bigbore fever all in one fell swoop!
 

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Welcome to MO. Lead or jacketed are fine. It is a deer killing machine if you do your part. If you will be shooting factory loads I prefer the Remington 405's over the 325 grn leverevolution stuff. If you reload you can do just about anything with it.
Have fun.
 

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The 45/70 was designed for a 405 or 500 grain boolits, anything else below this range is a waste and a lesser caliber can do the same job.

If your going to run cast, buy a NOE Ranch Dog mold, they are designed for the 1895
 

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I have a 1974 (serial number 26084xxx) 1895. The barrel is not stamped "Microgroove". The rifling has 8 grooves. I've read so much conflicting information that I've given up wondering whether it's a Douglas barrel with Ballard rifling or a Marlin barrel with Microgroove. What say the experts here?

Whatever it is, I know it shoots oversized cast bullets with gas checks just fine.
 

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Welcome to the " Shoulder mounted heavy artillery" from Alabama... :)
 

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m.aussiker, welocme to the MO Family, from here in west central Mo. As to the statement ''looks like this is going to be a fun gun,'' You Ain't Seen Nothin' Yet. When yu reload your own you can go from mild to wild and everthing in between. Mild target loads and deer/ hog loads, heavier loads for elk and heavy loads for the Big Bears. The 45-70 with heavy loads will stop anything on the NA continant, light loads you cna shoot all day long at the range. Take care, John.
 
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GH, you're so wrong! Reloading does not save youmoney, only lets you shoot more. ''That is my story and I'm stickin' to it,'' what's yours. Take care, John.:tee:
 
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