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I'm looking into the Mossberg Patriot and I like the synthetics, but what's so special about cerakote? Is it worth the extra money?

The Cerakote is a ceramic coating over the barrel and receiver, the cerakote website said it was developed to prevent wear and heat damage on helicopters, but is it worth it for a gun? I'm sure the coating helps prevent rust, but are there any other benefits? Does anyone have any experience with cerakote?

Sorry for overloading up with questions, I feel like I get better responses here based off of others' experiences rather than Googling and reading off of marketing websites
 

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there are a few different versions of cerakote. Be sure to go with a quality painter that uses the oven cured version, the air cure stuff doesn't really hold up all that great. like above, if you get the air cure version, you're getting an expensive paint job.

I cant stress enough that the parts MUST, MUST, MUST be prepped and prepared correctly before application. media blasted, de-greased etc. you cannot just wipe down scuff and apply.. any good, real cerakoter will know this, if you have it done, make sure they media blast their parts.. the number one failure and sign of an amateur coater will be if they just scuff, degrease and spray over an existing finish of any kind..

Ive seen some really bad applications. if it is applied correctly, and baked correctly, it is an exceptionally durable finish that will last a long time. I'm not rough on my guns, but I don't baby them either. I have some that were cerakoted years ago, and they don't show any wear. I have bolt carrier groups on a few of my AR's cerakoted, and they hold up well. thousands of rounds, and still looking good. Another benefit is it is exceptionally weather proof coating. and so far, even in the knife world, it is the number one coating for wearability..

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Every black piece you see, baked flat black cerakote.. in and out of a holster a ga-gillion times, not a mark..

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Personal refinish, Burnt bronze. bought this one back from the dead.

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My 458 Socom, even did the Magpul stock. Not a chip, blemish or flake anywhere after a few years. Bolt carrier shot in semi gloss black, (it was just anormal parkerized model) now its better looking since you can see it thru the side cuts in the receiver. easy to clean.. quick shot of brake cleaner, lube, done.
 

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Our military likes it and thinks it's worth it. Pros and Cons. Color schemes are tailored to the theater to which they're deployed. It is extremely hard in some forms, if the material wasn't prepped correctly it is more likely to chip. Being harder, thus brittle (like the shell of an egg) than the underlying material in many applications makes the problem worse when it is struck dinging the base material resulting in flaking off.

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I'm picking up my Remington 760 this weekend that I dropped off for a cerakote finish from an authorized cerakote specialist. I think it's an excellent finish but as others have said it has to be applied correctly to ensure it bonds with the metal. When done correctly it's one tough finish.
 

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As said above,like all finishes prep will make or brake the final results. Whether or not the cost is worth it is a personal decision, but for a weatherproof finish that comes in various colors it is a good option.
 

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The original finish was badly worn, and a bit pitted, particularly on the cylinder of this S&W Model 19 I'd picked up used. Two years ago had Cerakote applied, and wow! I'm impressed.


Also worth noting that Nosler has their very good rifles finished with Cerakote. I think that properly done, it can be an excellent finish.

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What are yall spending to have a gun cerakoted? Nearest place to me that does it is about 60-70 miles. I asked what they would charge to do a Mossberg 500 receiver and mag tube and they said "we'd have to see it".

I don't want to take it over there and have them quote me 3x's the value of the gun.

It's an old Revelation 20 gauge. My plan is to buy a new 26" ribbed barrel with accuchoke (about $100 on ebay) and then finish the receiver and mag tube in gloss black cerakote. Since the receiver is anodized aluminum I can't hot or rust blue the receiver.

Family gun, works fine, looks like crap, so I'd like to keep it but am not at all happy with how it looks. And yes, I know it's worth little or nothing. I want to get it where I'm ok with the appearance and then use it. Don't care about before and after value.
 

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What are yall spending to have a gun cerakoted? Nearest place to me that does it is about 60-70 miles. I asked what they would charge to do a Mossberg 500 receiver and mag tube and they said "we'd have to see it".

I don't want to take it over there and have them quote me 3x's the value of the gun.

It's an old Revelation 20 gauge. My plan is to buy a new 26" ribbed barrel with accuchoke (about $100 on ebay) and then finish the receiver and mag tube in gloss black cerakote. Since the receiver is anodized aluminum I can't hot or rust blue the receiver.

Family gun, works fine, looks like crap, so I'd like to keep it but am not at all happy with how it looks. And yes, I know it's worth little or nothing. I want to get it where I'm ok with the appearance and then use it. Don't care about before and after value.
The going rate in my neck of the woods is $200 , you really got to like your firearm to make it worth it.
 

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My area, prices vary.

AR, 3 pieces: upper, lower, handguard is around $150-$180 on average.

Pistols, 2 pieces $60-$100 - slide and frame or frame and cylinder.

I see prices for small parts go all over the place on cost, some have a fixed $10 price for each piece, some have "package prices" for a few extra parts.
also, barrels seem to be in the $40-$50

Some places bump a little off if you hand them stripped pieces. and the high side of the range is if they have to disassemble, then reassemble..
 

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I have an AR15 that was cerakoted in 2012. This gun has had little to no care and treated badly. It has bounced around in the bilge of an airboat and the bed of a pick up truck. The finish has held up better than anything I have ever seen. I am a firm believer in cerakote. The only care it really gets is the non coated parts being sprayed down with WD40 once in a while.
 

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I have no experience with cerakote but have sprayed several of my rifles
with Dura-Cote myself.
If prepped properly it is very effective, and I'm pretty rough my guns
and they don't get much care in hunting season, which for me is every day all
of fall and winter.
 

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The thing I like about what I've seen of the gloss black cerakote is it blends will with blued finishes. Looks similar to a factory finish on something like the anodized finish on the mossbergs. I don't know that I'd get the same results with Dura-cote. That said, I know the final finish will be determined by the prep work of whoever does it, so if I end up paying someone to do it, I'm going to make sure they do it right before I hand over the receiver
 

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Based on recommendations, I had 3 of my cowboy action guns DURAKOTED. Not sure how it differs from cerakote. Used a satin clear to seal the color casehardening on two revolvers and one rifle, as apparently modern CCH is not as durable as older versions. After nearly two seasons, I have not noticed any wear on the Durakoted areas. Your mileage may vary.
 

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When it comes to comparing coating finishes, this may interest some folks.

Jack

Cerakote Ceramic Coating Corrosion Test ASTM B117See what happens when Cerakote is tested with seven competitive finishes in the Salt Chamber Corrosion Test (ASTM B117). Cerakote Ceramic Coatings improve performance and reliability over conventional finishes. This and other ASTM tests can be found at www.Cerakote.com. KG Gun Kote, Ion Bond, FailZero, DuraCoat, and NiBx are respective trademarks and copyrights and are the property of their respective owners with which they are associated.

 

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As others have mentioned, it depends on what your purpose is.

There is a Cerakote company not too far from my house, and they'll Cerakote anything - pistol, rifle, shotgun. And they do it right, but you've got to pay to get it done right.

I really need to have all of my rifles Cerakoted because of where I hunt. In an all day hunt that is fairly continuous rain, surface rust will start setting in that day.

I can live with that down here because I can always get back to a workshop at the end of the day and clean things up.

But...when I head up to AK, and am stuck in the bush for 10 days, I won't be able to detail my rifle the way I can in a proper workshop like I have at home, or at my sister's house over in Louisiana, or on some ranch I may be hunting here in Texas.

So yes, I will eventually spend the money to have my 9.3x62 and my 45-70 Cerakoted by these guys: https://www.cerakoters.com
 

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What are yall spending to have a gun cerakoted? Nearest place to me that does it is about 60-70 miles. I asked what they would charge to do a Mossberg 500 receiver and mag tube and they said "we'd have to see it".

I don't want to take it over there and have them quote me 3x's the value of the gun.

It's an old Revelation 20 gauge. My plan is to buy a new 26" ribbed barrel with accuchoke (about $100 on ebay) and then finish the receiver and mag tube in gloss black cerakote. Since the receiver is anodized aluminum I can't hot or rust blue the receiver.

Family gun, works fine, looks like crap, so I'd like to keep it but am not at all happy with how it looks. And yes, I know it's worth little or nothing. I want to get it where I'm ok with the appearance and then use it. Don't care about before and after value.
You could try Brownells Alumahyde II. Not as many colrors but it is pretty good stuff for spray on DIY
 
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I picked up my cerakoted Remington 760 yesterday and it's awesome ,but time will tell!
 
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