I have been locked out of MO for a while and couldn't get a message to an admin to fix it. For the moment my forum name is reflex264-2. Here is the last 444 I scrounged up. One of the earliest 444s in existence. It goes good with my other first model. I am currently building a custom 444 on a first model. It is getting Treebone wood, Skinner express sights with the quick detach mount and more goodies.