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So this is the other reason the "marlin fund" went dry I found a 1891 side load at an auction site, it was miss marked as a 1892.

So here is my question someone took a wire wheel to the receiver an removed the patina and made it silver. if you look close the "well trained restorer" hit the wood on the forarm and chewed up some of the wood. At least they did not do the but plate and lever. But I am still very happy just to have this side loader. It was on the short list on "got to have"

So this has me thinking because now I have 2 rifles that someone did this too ( 1894 in 25-20 pictured). How much has this killed the value and are both of these canadates for full restoration?

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Moshin46
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As good as they look I would venture to say you would hurt the value more if you did a full restoration on them versus leaving them as is, or have more in them than they would be worth. I would give my first born for that 1894, just sayin... Im no expert although some should be along in short order id imagine.
Was that the Greg Marten auction? If so I bid on it to. As for your 1891 and 1894 both are to nice to restore! I would leave them alone. Both are fine looking Marlins!
Clark
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yes it was the Greg Marten auction, the marlin 39a cabine they threw in was a mess, stock serial # did not match the gun and crack in two, someone use oven cleaner to take off the rust ... I played with it and it will make a fine plinker but nothing more. Thanks for letting me add it to my collection

Moshin46
Moshin46
I got a 1897 and a 1892, the 97 is standard, the 92 is a 22 with a 28" barrel. Their nice, not super.
Clark
I would take wire wheel "whizzed", over power buffing wheel polished any day of the week. If the restoration is done correctly, its going to take more time for sure under the buffed scenario.

If you could prep the metal, or re do the wood, the price tag would come down a great deal, but if all has to be done by someone else, its going to take a bunch of money to totally restore these guns. And then some guys are even stamping their own name on them after doing such. Maybe thats optional, I dont know.

I agree with the others, those guns, the wood especially, should be left alone. The high end collector, will want more original finish, but there are a million guys just like most of us, wanting decent examples, at something a "beer" budget can pay for. THOSE fit that market.

And you will never come out financially, with a total restore, your grandkids maybe.
Patina gone & wire wheel marks on the forearm wood and you guys think they're still worth leaving alone??

I gotta question that. That's some nasty scarring and it's NOT going to help the value to leave it that way.
Anyone that ever looks to buy the wire-wheeled one is going to price them in the AFU/BUBBA'D category...
there is no lower price category. Makes one wonder what sort of moron uses a wire wheel on a gun without taking the stock off??
Of course, I gotta think using a wire wheel in the first place qualifies them as morons...lol
When it comes to antique metal refinishing, if you wanna do it right, use Hand Tools ONLY, no power tools.

Do the metal prep yourself, take your time & do it right...
then take it in to a Pro for the case-coloring.

The forearm looks to be a total loss...those wire-wheel marks aren't going to be hidden.
It looks HORRIBLE!! I'd either have it totally carved/checkered from front to back...or replace it.

I'd use it as a shooter, make it as pretty as possible and enjoy the heck out of it :)
After all, how many of those do you EVER see being shot at the local range?? :D
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Thank you for all your coments,

I will pull them out, find some light load to shoot, and punch some holes in paper. How often do you get to hold let alone shoot something that was made in 1891

Moshin46
I'd not restore them either. Not just because it wont look right, but because you'll be totally upside down in them, even if you could do all the metal prep and the stock building. Costs on quality rust bluing and casehardening will add to what you paid already, and you'll not see that in your lifetime.
I'm not against restoring a gun if it's really rare and really gone, but those are not so bad as to leave them and just enjoy owning and shooting them.
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