[Aussie 1]

the Hornady powder measure seems to be a couple hundred biscuits less than the RCBS, has anyone here got one or has anyone got any thoughts on the matter?
Have some of these little Silvertips, has anyone used them ?What would their application be? (44 or 444)
Thanks all,
Aussie.

 

[thearborbarber]

I have both. I have the hornady on my progressive press and the rcbs as a stand alone. As far as operation I can't see any difference. One is red and one is green. Both are quality units. The Hornady does give some flexibility in that it has three different rotors that can be changed with out tools. There is a general purpose rotor, a rifle rotor and a pistol rotor. The GP rotor gives a decent charge range. The pistol rotor gives you more control of smaller pistol sized charges and the same for the rifle rotor. You don't need anything more than the GP rotor. I bought the pistol rotor for my progressive set up and it does meter better with tighter control of the powder.

 

[Charlie98]

I have the old version of the Hornady, it works as well as it should. The newer model is better, mine has tiny little hex-head screws to change the measure and to lock the measure down once it is set... kind of a pain.

 

[Aussie 1]

Thanks all, has anyone played with the Silvertips?

 

[Charlie98]

Thanks all, has anyone played with the Silvertips?

What weight are they? I used to load Silvertips in .41 and .45 (both ACP and Colt.) They were always very accurate in my pistols. If memory serves, they will have a little slip of paper in the box with them telling you the intended velocity to load them to for proper expansion, that may answer your question...

 

[44-40 Willy]

I use the 210gr 44 cal Silvertips in my High Velocity 44-40 loads. I got started using them in factory 357 ammo and when I got my 44-40 had to use them there too. I've never had to shoot a deer or hog twice with them in either 357 or 44-40.

I never got that slip of paper in either 357 or 44 cal Silvertips. In my 20" 1894 in 44-40, I've been averaging a little over 1800fps with the 210gr Silvertips.

 

[Charlie98]

I never got that slip of paper in either 357 or 44 cal Silvertips. In my 20" 1894 in 44-40, I've been averaging a little over 1800fps with the 210gr Silvertips.

I may be thinking of another brand of bullet... ??? My mind isn't what it used to be... not that it ever was.

 

[44-40 Willy]

My mind isn't what it used to be... not that it ever was.

Don't feel lonesome when it comes to that!

 

[Aussie 1]

Don't feel lonesome when it comes to that!

I think we're all on the same page with that one :
Charlie, these are bulk bullets that come in a zip-lock bag, 210gr. as Willy said and look like a grey XTP with a smaller hollow point, if that makes any sense ???

 

[Charlie98]

I think we're all on the same page with that one :
Charlie, these are bulk bullets that come in a zip-lock bag, 210gr. as Willy said and look like a grey XTP with a smaller hollow point, if that makes any sense ???

All my XTP's have come in boxes... but I know some are switching to bags, certainly they are cheaper per unit than cardboard boxes. I've not bought any XTP's since switching to Speer Gold Dots, though, and don't have a single XTP on the bench at this point.

 

[44-40 Willy]

Yep, Aussie 1 has described them pretty well. As my supply of Silvertips has dried up and they seem to be unavailable these days, I'll be switching back to the 200gr Speer Gold Dot for my 44-40. Worst case, I still have about 500 200gr XTPs.

I will say however that at 1800fps, those 210gr Silvertips will whack the heck out of a whitetail. DRT in most cases has been my experience with them.

 

[Charlie98]

We used to get very good accuracy with the XTP's in both the .41Mag and .45ACP, I always thought it was a very good bullet.

It's really a shame Winchester discontinued the Silvertip as a component bullet, the 170grn .30 cal Silvertip was the most accurate bullet ever in my 336... :-[ I've only got 80 left plus the 100 I have loaded.

 

[Aussie 1]

Charlie, these are Winchester Silvertips, not XTP's although they don't look anything like the Silvertips you are referring to (that I used to drop lots of Pigs in my Ruger 30-06)

 

[44-40 Willy]

These are the pistol JHP Silvertips, not the older copperjacketed with the silver metal tipped rifle bullets from years ago.

Here's a pic of the 44 210gr Silvertip.

 

[Charlie98]

Charlie, these are Winchester Silvertips, not XTP's although they don't look anything like the Silvertips you are referring to (that I used to drop lots of Pigs in my Ruger 30-06)

...and you are right, of course. :-[ I don't know why I had it stuck in my head you were asking about XTP's. I'll just go crawl back under my rock.... :-X

 

[44-40 Willy]

No need. It's been a pretty good conversation so far.