I read an article in Shooting Times a couple years ago . With a good scope on top they seemed to be very good . I believe if I were going to buy one I would go with the H&R Ultra as it has a heavier barrel I have a Savage 210 and had a Browning A-Bolt, both of them liked the 2.75" Federals with the Barnes slug inside and they also liked the Winchester 2.75" with the Nosler Partition slug I have since sold the Browning ,but still have the Savage. But if I ever decide to get another slug gun that H&R Ultra will be my choice :!: Oh yeah , if you get one you may want someone to ease up the trigger a bit , all the H&R and NEF that I have shot had rather stout triggers :?