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Please can someone give me the part number for a front sight base that cam be screwed into the original holes of an 1894S (not the 1894SS) in order that I can use a Lyman #3171078 front sight.

Many sincere thanks in advance.

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You'll probably have problem with it shooting low, as the front sight will be too tall on a base.

I put the Lyman 17AHB (it's the lowest model) on my 39A. I had to pony up $80 to have a gunsmith cut a front dovetail and install it, but it was well worth it.

He cut it so the front of the Target Globe sets back .060" from the muzzle.

The original front sight holes were unaffected and filled with filler screws. The farthest one forward is covered by the knurled cap that screws the apertures into place.
The farthest one back is visible, but to the untrained eye it looks like a factory install.

The cost of a Skinner Rear Peep, the Lyman 17AHB and the gunsmithing was $180. It was worth every penny and I would do it again.

Hope this helps you.
 

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450 Sniper said:
You'll probably have problem with it shooting low, as the front sight will be too tall on a base.

I put the Lyman 17AHB (it's the lowest model) on my 39A. I had to pony up $80 to have a gunsmith cut a front dovetail and install it, but it was well worth it.

He cut it so the front of the Target Globe sets back .060" from the muzzle.

The original front sight holes were unaffected and filled with filler screws. The farthest one forward is covered by the knurled cap that screws the apertures into place.
The farthest one back is visible, but to the untrained eye it looks like a factory install.

The cost of a Skinner Rear Peep, the Lyman 17AHB and the gunsmithing was $180. It was worth every penny and I would do it again.

Hope this helps you.
Hi 450

Many sincere thanks for the post!

I am completely new to owning a Marlin. I never would have thought that an underlever could be so much fun. (Remember that in the UK such rifles are rarely used for anything but gallery gun target discliples). The Marlin is class piece of kit.

Anyway, I should have posted this before: I am using the Williams FP 336 TK rear peep sight. What front sight would you recommend?

Many thanks in advance.

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I really like my Target Globe because of the different inserts that can be installed.

I don't know what your taste is or what function it will serve.

You could always buy the XS one piece front sight..........you might have to contact XS sights directly. I only see the 'kit' available on Brownells site.
 

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450 Sniper said:
I really like my Target Globe because of the different inserts that can be installed.

I don't know what your taste is or what function it will serve.

You could always buy the XS one piece front sight..........you might have to contact XS sights directly. I only see the 'kit' available on Brownells site.
Hi 450

What exactly is the measurement of the dovetail on the 1894s? It does not appear to be 3/8"

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It's a standard 3/8" dovetail.

Remember, I had a gunsmith cut a dovetail in the barrel for my front sight.
 

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It's a standard 3/8" dovetail.

Remember, I had a gunsmith cut a dovetail in the barrel for my front sight.
Hi 450

My Marlin 1894S has a front sight base that is screwed mounted to the barrel.

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=0/sid=770/schematicsdetail/1894

Item #57 on schematic

Brownell part #550-000-111

Marlin #220339 or F406317 (my Owner's manual mentions #220339)

Please can you tell me what the dovetail measurement is?

Many thanks in advance.

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450 Sniper said:
I had to pony up $80 to have a gunsmith cut a front dovetail and install it, but it was well worth it.

The original front sight holes were unaffected and filled with filler screws.

to the untrained eye it looks like a factory install.
450 Sniper said:
It's a standard 3/8" dovetail.
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In addition to it being too tall, it'll probably be too wide. Front sights are generally made in three widths, one to fit the narrow dovetailed ramps, one for dovetails directly cut in round barrels and slightly wider ones for octagonal barrels. They all have the same nominal 3/8" dovetail, but sticking a wide one in a narrow ramp will look a bit odd. And that Lyman globe sight is made to go in a dovetail in the barrel or a target bull barrel block. You can get pretty shallow ramps, the Williams Shorty probably being the shortest on the shelf. It's one that can use an existing dovetail, can be sweated on or holes can be drilled and tapped for it. But it's still narrow.

A target front sight on a carbine like the 1894 is kind of a waste, if you want something other than the stock gold bead, look up a fiber optic sight or, for me, a white bead works well. The 1894 was made for hunting, after all.

For sight heights, Brownell's has a section in their paper catalog on how to figure out what you'll need, they also carry a good cross-section of what's currently available for iron sights these days. I'm not sure if the same chart is available on their website, but you can check, www.brownells.com.

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I prefer the front sights that Skinner provides because they are thin and because they are a blade style you just get a bit taller one and file it down until it is just perfect for your gun, and they are not so expensive that if you change your mind and go for a bead or FO you will know exactly how tall of a sight you need to order.
 

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Hi 450

Many thanks for your patience and advice.

My retailer has informed me that the Lyman front sight is oversized for the 1894 dovetail and requires filing. No wonder then I could see that it will not fit without some intervention!!!

I am now going to take your route, and have a gunsmith do some fettling.

Please will you tell me what the optimal height the front sight (ie bead, circle, fibre optic etc) should be as measured from the top of the barrel.

Many thanks

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I rigged out a Mountie with a Lyman receiver sight (steel) and the 17A front aperature in the mid-70s. I would call it anything but a waste. Ask all the *****, prairie dogs, crows, opossums, snakes, tuttles, rabbits, and etc that fell prey to the little outfit what they thought. The gold or ivory beads are not bad, but the firesight is the one that misses out for me. The 17A has lots of choices for inserts. The posts found a lot of use for hunting and the circle was handy for paper targets.To each his own. Good day, Jack
 

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I rigged out a Mountie with a Lyman receiver sight (steel) and the 17A front aperature in the mid-70s. I would call it anything but a waste. Ask all the *****, prairie dogs, crows, opossums, snakes, tuttles, rabbits, and etc that fell prey to the little outfit what they thought. The gold or ivory beads are not bad, but the firesight is the one that misses out for me. The 17A has lots of choices for inserts. The posts found a lot of use for hunting and the circle was handy for paper targets.To each his own. Good day, Jack
Hi Jack

Many thanks for your informative post.

Unfortunately for me, I can only use my Marlin for target shooting (I live in the UK) You American dudes are spoilt! ;D

ATVB

Cam
 
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