Finally shot my 356ER a couple of days ago. Also shot my 444P with Lee's 310 gas check lead at the same outing. The 356 win. cartridge in the marlin setup is just plain the right caliber in the right gun. Authority with not that much recoil. Why Marlin doesn't bring this back is beyond me. I was working up to max loads just to check for pressure signs. Didn't take the chrono with me on that trip. Just testing different powder charges and getting it halfway sighted in at the same time. Started at 43 grs for the first 4 rounds and progressed a full grain each time up to 47. Lee listed a max of 45 with AA-2015 and Speer listed it at 47. As I am using Speers' 180 gr. bullet I went with their data and found absolutely no sticking etc. Needed a better rest than I had at the time but, accuracy was very acceptable with every load level. Seemed to drop them all right together. The chrono will tell the story next time. It was 80 degrees at the time and I didn't let anything cool. Just shot as I was ready. Everybody ought to holler until Marlin makes these again. Get one and you'll see what I mean. Rick ...D..mn, I sound like an advertisement. Can you tell I really like this gun.