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This is a similar post but looking for any input. Looking to buy an old Model 39. It is certainly an early model and I can find NO serial number on the receiver. Looked under handle on lower tang. Nothing! Is this possible?
 

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MARLINS MADE 1948 and LATER
Marlin Model 336 and Models 39-A and 39-M manufactured from 1948 to 1968
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A one or two letter code was used to designate the year of manufacture
 

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  • Marlin dates of Manufacture info & 39A Stats 1952-75
    ANOTHER GOOD SOURCE THANK YOU VAN25Marlin Model 336 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    By 44-40 Willy

    Marlin 101

    Marlin Lever Action Centerfire Serial # Prefixes & Production Dating

    Model 1881: 1881 to 1892
    32-40W, 38-55B, 40-60M, 45-70Govt Barrel Rollstamp: J. M. Marlin. New Haven, Conn.,USA
    Pat'd Feb.7.65. Jan.7.63 Sept.14.75. Nov.19&26.78 Jun.3.79.Dec.9.79. Nov.9.80. Reissue Nov.9.1880 Top eject, first Marlin lever action rifle. 32-40, 38-55 in a smaller framed action. Blued receiver


    Short Actions:

    Model 1888: 8/1888 to 10/1889*.
    32W, 38W, 44W Top eject, blued receiver. 4815 made with 1298 in 32W
    * Note 4 Model 1888s were built after production ended. 1890- #22133 & #25820; 1892- #20528 & #24667
    4,312 manufactured with a 24"" barrel (octagon), part round/part octagon there was 23 manufactured and finally with a 24'' round barrel there was 266. The old Marlin Records only reflect what was written down in the ledgers. There are many blank serial number lines that we know guns were made, but not recorded. So actual numbers are not exact.

    Model 1889: 1889 to 1895. PAT'D OCT. 11,1887. APRIL2.1889
    32W, 38W, 44W (a few 25-20s near the end of production)
    1st side eject, one piece firing pin, blued receiver, forward part of the lever shaped different from the 1894 with safety catch on lower tang at rear of lever.

    Model 1894: 1894 to 1905. PAT'D OCT. 11,1887. APRIL2.1889. AUG. 1, 1893
    25W, 32W, 38W, 44W
    Went to 2-piece firing pin, different shape to the front of the lever and the lever lock on the tang was removed. Case Colored receiver. Serials start in 107,000 range

    Model 94: 1905 to 1933.
    25-20, 32-20, 38-40, 44-40 Some of the later Model 94s were made up from leftover musket receivers and have a notch where the sling swivel boss was ground off. These were serial numbered in front of the lower receiver, not under the lever. Also, they were all .38-40, or .44-40, as this was the bolt face used on the muskets. Most observed were equipped with round barrels.

    Model 1894: 1969? to date.
    218 Bee, 25-20, 32-20, 38 Special, 357 Mag, 41 Mag, 44-40, 44 Mag, and 45 Colt.
    Blued Receiver


    Long Action:

    Model 1895: 1895 to 1915 or 16.
    .38-56, .33 WCF, .40-65, .40-82, .45-90, and .45-70.
    note: current manufacture Model 1895 rifles are based on the Model 336 medium action.


    Medium Action:

    Model 1893: 1893 to 1921 or 22. PAT'D OCT. 11,1887. APRIL2.1889. AUG. 1, 1893
    25-36, 30-30, 32-40 32HPS, 38-55
    Some early 1893's did not have the two piece firing pin. Serial numbers are located under the receiver just behind the forearm.
    Factory records ceased in 1906. Original serial numbering quit around 450,000 approx 1913. Letter designations used on 1893 during the following period were A, B, C, & D. This goes to about the 1917 WWI period. ???A=1914, B=1915, C=1916, D=1917???
    Note: some 1893s were made after WWI when production of the '93 started. These were apparently made up from left over parts. 32HPS is the same cartridge as the 32 Winchester Special. Marlin didn't want to put the name Winchester on it's rifles.

    Model 93: 1921 or 22 to 1935.
    30-30, 32-40, 32HPS, 38-55
    Early serial numbers are located under the receiver just behind the forearm. Later numbers are on the lower tang under the lever. Serial numbers have A, C,C suffix, and L. L prefix Model 93 serial numbers were 1935 production

    Model 410: 1929 to 1932 410 Gauge Originally offered as a stock purchase incentive only. During the last year of production, they were offered for sale for $32.95. Most have 26" barrels although a 22" was offered and is rarely seen.

    Model 1936: 1936 to 1941.
    30-30, 32 Special
    The 1936 had case colored receivers & Model 1936 on upper tang.
    1936 1st series production (no letter prefix serial numbers) had flat mainspring, fluted comb buttstock, perch belly forearm, hard rubber buttplate w/slotted screws. Starting in 1937, this model was listed in Marlin's Catalogs as the Model 36 and was only there referred to as the 36. The gun itself was still stamped Model 1936 until sporting arms production was discontinued in 1941. Serial numbers located on the lower tang under the lever.
    B-prefix series: Changes to unfluted comb & beavertail forearm, hard rubber buttplate w/ phillips screws, upper tang was shortened and the use of coil mainsprings vice leaf mainsprings. 1941 Production.

    No Letter Prefix-1936 to 1940
    B-1941

    No WWII Production Late 1941 to late 1945

    Model 36: 1946 to 1947.
    30-30, 32 Special
    Model 36 is marked on the barrel, not on the tang as in the Model 1936 and earlier guns. Blued reciever. Serial numbers located on the lower tang under the lever. These are squarebolts and are not to be confused with later roundbolt Glenfield 36 (336 roundbolt action). Late 1945 production resumed on limited basis using C prefix and leftover parts (some guns will have Pre-WWII Model 1936 parts mixed with Post WWII Model 36 parts. IE: 1936 action with 36 barrel. These guns are considered Model 36s.
    Post WWII production had blued receivers and Model 36 on barrel
    Barrel roll stamp reads:
    "The Marlin Firearms Co. New Haven Conn USA-est 1870"
    Model 36 (then caliber designation)
    Variations of Model #: 36-A-DL, 36-A, 36-RC C-1945 shiny blue on top of receiver
    c-1946 (note: c prefix is lower case)
    D-1947 sandblasted top of receiver starts
    Model 36 Production supposedly ceased in 1947. However Model 336 production began in June 1948. Is a there a possiblity of some E prefix Model 36s??

    Model 336: June 1948 to present.
    219Zipper, 30-30, 307 Win?, 32 Special, 35 Remington, 356 Win, 38-55, 375 Win, & 44 Mag. Early serial numbers located on the lower tang under the lever. Later ones on upper tang. These serial codes also work for the 22lr leverguns as well.
    C-1946
    D-1947
    E-1948
    F-1949
    G-1950
    H-1951
    J-1952
    K-1953
    L-1954
    M-1955
    N-1956
    P-1957
    R-1958
    S-1959
    T-1960
    U-1961
    V-1962
    W-1963
    Y-1964
    Z-1964
    AA-1965
    AB-1966
    AC-1967
    AD-early 1968
    68-late 1968
    69-1969
    70-1970
    71-1971
    72-1972
    27-1973
    26-1974
    25-1975
    24-1976
    23-1977
    22-1978
    21-1979
    20=1980
    19-1981
    18-1982
    17-1983
    16-1984
    15-1985
    14-1986
    13-1987
    12-1988
    11-1989
    10-1990
    09-1991
    08-1992
    07-1993
    06-1994
    05-1995
    04-1996
    03-1997
    02-1998
    01-1999
    00-2000
    99-2001
    98-2002
    97-2003
    96-2004
    95-2005
    94-2006


    336 Zane Grey: 1972 (7871)
    30/30 Win
    22" Octagon barrel, crescent buttplate

    336 Octagon: made in 1972 released in 73 (2414)
    30/30 Win
    22" Octagon barrel, standard buttplate

    336LTS: 1988-89 (2671) 30/30 Win Serial Nos run LTSXXXXX. 16.25" round barrel, non-hooded front sight

    336 Cowboy: 1999?-
    30/30, 38/55 (30/30 dropped for 2002)
    24" tapered octagon barrel, Marbles sights

    336M: 2000- 30/30 Win Stainless Steel version of 336CS

    336D: 2000 (1000) 35 Rem. Serial Nos 336DXXX *Not cataloged*, Special Run for Davidsons, Lettered from Marlin, uncheckered, 16.25" ported round barrel

    336CC: 2001?- 30/30 Win Camouflaged stock version of 336CS

    336Y "Spikehorn": 2003- 30/30 Win 16.25" round barrel, youth sized buttstock
    30TK: ?
    30/30
    Special run for K-Mart uses standard numbering.



    Marlin 444 (note all chambered for 444 Marlin)
    Thanks to Ranch Dog at the Marlin Talk forum for this info

    Marlin 444
    Dates: 1965-71
    Serial Numbers, first two digits: AA, AB, AC, AD, 69 through 71
    Barrel Length: 24"
    Barrel Rifling: Micro-Groove?, 12 lands
    Barrel Twist: 1/38
    1971: Mar-Shield finish and vented recoil pad appear.

    Marlin 444 Sporter
    Dates: 1972-83
    Serial Numbers, first two digits: 27 descending through 17
    Barrel Length: 22"
    Barrel Rifling: Micro-Groove, 12 lands
    Barrel Twist: 1/38
    Notes:
    1976: Forearm cap replaces barrel band.
    1978: Honed chamber, I’m not sure of the significance of this.

    Marlin 444 SS
    Dates: 1984-98
    Serial Numbers, first two digits: 16 descending through 00 (2000). Year 2001 starts 99 descending.
    Barrel Length: 22"
    Barrel Rifling: Micro-Groove, 12 lands
    Barrel Twist: 1/38
    Note: The side safety appeared with this model change.

    Marlin 444 SS
    Dates: 1999-2002
    Serial Numbers, first two digits: 01, 00, 99, & 98
    Barrel Length: 22"
    Barrel Rifling: Ballard, 6 lands
    Barrel Twist: 1/20

    Marlin 444P (Outfitter)
    Dates: 1999-2002
    Serial Numbers, first two digits: 01, 00, 99, & 98
    Barrel Length: 18.5"
    Barrel Rifling: Ballard, 6 lands
    Barrel Twist: 1/20
    Note: Ported barrel

    Marlin 444
    Dates: 2003 - Present
    Serial Numbers, first two digits: 97
    Barrel Length: 22"
    Barrel Rifling: Ballard, 6 lands
    Barrel Twist: 1/20



    1895: 1972-
    45-70
    Based on modified 336 action. Modern 1895 rifles from the first couple years production also have different numbering along with outsourced barrels (Douglas?)

    For the "New Model" Marlin 1895 the first year of manufacture, 1972, included a B0 prefix. That is "bee" "zero". Otherwise up to 2000 subtract the first two digits from 2000 to get the year of manufacture and after 2000 subtract the first two digits from 2100 to get the year of manufacture. Submitted by Jackfish
    1895SS: ?-2000
    45-70
    Cross Bolt Safety, 22" Barrel

    1895G: 1999?-
    45-70
    18.5" ported barrel (ports not listed for 2002)

    1895M: 2000
    450 Marlin
    18.5" ported barrel (ports not listed for 2002)

    1895: 2001-
    45-70
    22" round barrel, pistol grip

    1895 Cowboy: 2001-
    45-70
    24" tapered octagon barrel, Marbles sights

    1895GS: 2001-
    45-70
    Stainless steel version of the 1895G

    1895MR: 2003-
    450 Marlin
    22" barrel, pistol grip



    Modern era Model 1894s

    1894: 1969?-72
    44 Magnum
    20" round Barrel with Brass Saddle Ring and Barrel Band

    1894 Octagon: 1973 (2,957) 44 Magnum
    20" Octagon Barrel

    1894: 1973-84 44 Magnum
    New Forearm Cap and Front Sight Hood

    1894 Sporter: 1973-? (1,398) 44 Magnum
    22" Round Barrel, 1/2 Magazine

    1894C: 1979-84 357 Magnum 18.5" Barrel with Forearm Barrel band

    1894M: 1984 (12,088) 22 Magnum
    20" Round Barrel, Loading tube, Cross Bolt Safety.

    1894S: 1984-2000 41 Magnum (1,040), 44 Magnum
    "S" added to designate Cross Bolt Safety.

    1894CS: 1984-2000
    357 Magnum
    Cross Bolt Safety added

    1894S: 1987
    44 Magnum
    New Soft Rubber Butt Plate introduced.

    1894CS: 1988
    357 Magnum
    New Soft Rubber Butt Plate introduced.

    1894S: 1988-91 (2,573)
    41 Magnum
    20" Round Barrel

    1894S: 1988-91 (984)
    45 Colt
    20" Round Barrel

    1894CL: 1989-94
    218 Bee (1990-94), 25-20, 32-20
    "Classic" Model, 1/2 magazine, black butt plate without white spacer

    1894CL Duck's Unlimited Special Edition: 1992 (1800)
    32-20
    "Not cataloged"

    1894CL NRA Special Edition: 1992 (100)
    32-20
    "Not cataloged"

    1894CL NRA Special Edition: 1993 (100)
    25-20
    *Not cataloged*

    1894CL NRA Special Edition: 1994 (350)
    218 Bee
    *Not cataloged*

    1894S NRA Commemerative: ? (550)
    44 Magnum
    *Not cataloged*

    1894S : 1993
    44-40Win (925)
    Ser #'s 444000xx
    *Not cataloged*

    1894S : 1993
    45 Colt (875)
    Ser #'s
    *Not cataloged*

    1894S: 1994
    44 Magnum
    Checkering added.

    1894CS: 1994
    357 Magnum
    Checkering added.

    1894 Century Limited: 1994 (2500)
    44-40 Win
    Ser #'s
    100th Anniversary edition of the Model 1894. Case Colored Engraved Receiver, 24 "Octagon barrel, curved brass butt plate.

    1894 Cowboy: 1995?-
    45 Colt
    24" tapered octagon barrel, Marbles sights.

    1894S Limited: 1996 (1500)
    44 Magnum
    16.25" barrel roll stamped Marlin Limited

    1894 Cowboy II: 1996-2000
    357 Magnum, 44-40 Win (discontinued 1999), 44 Magnum
    24 " tapered octagon barrel, Marbles sights.

    1894SC: 1996 (1550)
    44 Magnum
    16.25"bl, *Not cataloged*, Special Run for Davidsons, Lettered from Marlin

    1894SC: 1997 (1050)
    45 Colt
    16.25"bl, *Not cataloged*, Special Run for Davidsons, Lettered from Marlin

    1894CCL Cowboy Carbine Limited: 1999? (1000)
    41 Magnum
    Ser #s 1894CCLXXXX, *Not cataloged*, Special Run for Davidsons, Lettered from Marlin, uncheckered, 20" tapered octagon barrel, rollstamped "Cowboy Limited".

    1894P: 2000-2002
    44 Magnum
    16.25" ported barrel

    1894D Cowboy Carbine Limited: 2000 (325)
    44-40 Win
    Serial Nos 1894DXXX*Not cataloged*, Special Run for Davidsons, Lettered from Marlin, Rollstamped "Cowboy Limited", uncheckered , 20" tapered octagon barrel

    1894: 2001-2002
    44 Magnum
    1894S designation changed back to 1894, Cross Bolt Safety retained

    1894C: 2001-
    357 Magnum
    1894CS designation changed back to 1894C, Cross Bolt Safety retained

    1894CP: 2001- 2002
    357 Magnum
    16.25" ported barrel

    1894 Cowboy: 2001
    357 Magnum, 44 Magnum, 45 Colt.
    Cowboy II designation dropped for 357 & 44.

    1894IV Cowboy Carbine Limited: 2001 (1000)
    45 Colt
    Serial Nos 1894IVXXXX *Not cataloged*, Special Run for Davidsons, Lettered from Marlin, Rollstamped "Cowboy Limited", uncheckered , 20" tapered octagon barrel

    1894SS: 2002
    44 Magnum Stainless steel version of 1894

    1894 Cowboy: 2002
    357 Magnum, 44 Magnum, 45 Colt
    Checkering discontinued on Cowboy models

    1894CBC (Cowboy Competition Carbine): 2002-
    38 Special
    20" octagon barrel, case finish, tuned action

    1894H: 2002-
    357 Magnum, 44 Magnum, 45 Colt
    *Not cataloged*, Special Run for Big Five stores. Walnut finished hardwood stock version of 1894 & 1894C. Sold as a special for $299.95.

    1894PG: 2003-
    44 Magnum
    Pistol grip stock. Straight grip standard 1894 in 44 Mag no longer listed

    1894FG: 2003-
    41 Magnum
    Pistol grip stock.

    1894CBC (Cowboy Competition Carbine): 2003-
    45 Colt
    20" octagon barrel, case finish, tuned action, blued bolt

    1894 Cowboy: 2003
    357 Magnum, 44 Magnum
    Barrel length reduced from 24" to 20". 45 Colt remains 24".

    1894CCL Cowboy Carbine Limited: 2004 (501)
    32-20 Win
    Serial Nos CCLXXXXXD *Not cataloged*, Special Run for Davidsons, Lettered from Marlin, Rollstamped "Cowboy Limited", uncheckered , 20" tapered octagon barrel


    twist rates in the modern era Model 1894s:
    218 Bee 1-16 twist
    25-20 Win 1-14 twist
    32-20 Win 1-20 twist
    38 Special 1-16 twist
    357 Magnum 1-16 twist
    41 Magnum 1-20 twist
    44-40 Win 1-38 twist
    44 Magnum 1-38 twist
    45 Long Colt 1-16 twist

    MR7: 1996-1999
    30-06, 270, 25-06 (280 added towards end of production) 243, 22-250 & 308 were all advertised in 1998 but were never produced.
    Bolt Action with best features of several popular other makes of bolt action rifles.

    MR-7B
    30-06, 270
    Birch-stocked version of the MR7

    Marlin Single Barrel shotguns: 1998-99.
    Special run made by NEF for Marlin and sold thru K-Mart. H&R/NEF soon afterward purchased by Marlin.



 

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That is the remains of the serial number. You should also be able to find at lest some of the serial number on the opposite side of the frame. Also could find serial on the bolt, and stamped into the end of the stock. It is hard to tell by one picture, but it is possible that it was refinished, and that is why the serial number is almost completely gone.
 

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Schtoolee. I can see your point. What do you think about the lack of Model designation on the barrel? There is nothing under the buttplate. Also, do you really think refinishing would remove the serial number? Why are the 2 Ts spaced so far apart? I mean if there were a 2 Letter serial number prefix wouldn't the two letters be together with the space for numbers after them? Look at the spacing. Do you really think there were ever any numbers there?
 

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The serial numbers were put stamped on 1 at a time. And those T ' s might be 1's. The earliest 39A that I have is a 54. I am not sure how they stamped the barrels, on the first model 39A's. Someone else may help with that. Also back to the serial number, there was never a TT prefix. If you look on the bottom of my post, there is a link to serial numbers, and prodution dates sheets, that I compiled. It should help if you find the complete number inside.
Also if it was made from 1938-41 it was originally case hardened. After 1945 the frame was blued.
1938-40 no prefix. The rest are listed on the serial number sheet.
 

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Forgot to mention , no prodution during the war years, 1942 through most of 1945.
 

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Also just thought of this. The serial number starts at the trigger side and go's back from there. So what you are calling T 's, are actually the bottom of the letter, or numbers.
 

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The gun seems to be in really good condition for its approximate age. I wish I took a full picture. I am just wondering if the $500 is worth it. It's probably not far off so I guess I could go either way
 

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It is possible that the guy doing the serial that day had a hangover. That first digit might be a small c, that would put it at 1945. If the finish is original it would be definitely worth that. And if you go by wood fit, it could be original.
 

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What do you mean "If I go by wood fit" ?
Thanks
The other thing I'm not thrilled about is the barrel being tapped for the scope. Doesn't look too bad but there are 4 additional screws in the left side of the barrel. I have read that it may have been a Marlin factory option for Sears... Overall I think it should drop the value some.
My gunsmith is very reputable and I have never purchased an old gun from him that wasn't good. He tells me that he has many old guns come in and out with "NSN" or no serial number.
 

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I ment the wood fit looks like is was when it came from the factory. Not sanded away, or sanded down,like you would imagine, if the rest of the gun had been redone.
The 4 hole were on more than just Sears guns. My 54 has them, and I am sure it came from Marlin that way. I have seen some that look like someone drilled them with a hand drill. I am sure they were done after.;) If they look like factory installed, with the screws, still in them, I wouldn't down grade it for that. They were put there for the Weaver scope mounts, I believe N2, and N3. But if you can use it to get a better deal, well it doesn't hurt to try.
 
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