My Father and I went to Mackey's Gun Store in Jamesville NC. today. This store is massive and has more than a thousand guns in it. If anyone wants to compare different guns this is the place to go. They have their guns catorigized by make and caliber used and new. It takes hours to see them all. We bought a Browning A-5, but while I was there I went down the SXS isle. Pappy saw a Stoeger coach gun he liked. I thought he was going to get it, but he said we will save it for another days outing. I saw some mighty fine doubles. I have been wanting a coach gun for the house but would also like a nice twenty with longer barrels for hunting. I saw one of the old Charles Daly that was in mint condition. I think possibly as old as 1960 or so. It was a 12 ga. with what appeared to be 26 or 28 inch barrels. They were asking around 750 for it. Dad saw a 410 double he like but I told him the ammo was around $20.00 a box. He said you've got to be kidding and I told him the stuff was ten dollars a box about 7 years ago. He said DAMN THAT oboma. I have been checking out doubles for a while and none of them are cheap. $800.00 for a decent one. The CZ Ringneck seems to be a nice one but I think I would buy something like that Daly I saw or a used Browning or SKB. Does anyone know if the CZ's have real Bone Case Hardening finish. Their case finishes look like the real thing instead of the fake stuff on most doubles today.