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I have a 70 Series Colt Gov't model that dents the crap out of the case mouths. The dents are easily ironed out when I reload in my Dillon SDB, but I'm concerned for reliability. I have replaced the stock extractor but not the Colt bbl. Is there a way to bend the extractor to keep this from happening? The gun is a matte finish nickel, and I'm too cheap to replate the slide after having it ported. I shoot a LOT more rifle than pistol, so I'm not up to speed on some of these 45 auto tricks. SW
 

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N.H., if your Colt Govt. 70 Mark IV is not ported, do not start playing around with the extractor!! It is the "nature of the beast" for the empty cartridge case to get "dinged" when extracted from a non-ported Colt's.

If you don't want to get it ported, leave the rest alone and live with the dings in the cases. I'd far, far, far rather have a ding in the case, than to worry about some malfunction with my "fighing pistol", or even my competition pistol... or even my "just shootin' tin cans" pistol.

Besides, resizing with a carbide die will staighten out the case, anyway.

FWIW. L.W.
 

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Hey Hogger,

You may need a new (or different) recoil spring. Recoil springs "relax" over time.

With "factory" level loads (230 @ 800fps), a 18.5# spring works well.

Later, Mark
 
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I had a Kimber Gold Match II that beat the hell out of my brass. Different springs and loads made no difference. I had the same nasty ding from hitting the ejection port everytime I fired a round. Brass was also scattered in a 10 foot circle, and never in the same spot twice. My smith suggested changing the extractor and or lowering the ejection port but I decided to just live with dented cases.

Gunscrewguy's Commander ejector is a great recommendation.
 

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If your brass is not throwing to the right and is all over the place it probably is your extractor and yes they can be adjusted and even the angle changed. Your recoil spring can also be to heavy for lighter loads. I use a 16lb spring in my competition guns and a 18lb in my defense pistols (heavier load). All my cases throw to the right in a pile. It takes a little tuning but it's doable...:tee:
 

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Leanwolf is correct. The gun is not ported.......meaning the Gov't. Model has a smaller ejector port. This is common with unmodified 1911s. Leave the extractor and springs alone. There is nothing wrong with the gun. Later Colt's other models like the Commander have the lowered ejection port, as do just about every other brand out there, but the Gov't. model was left as it was. The dent is caused when the brass hits the inside of the slide while being ejected, and having the ejection port ground away on the lower edge will stop this problem. Don't do it yourself, and have a 1911 specialist do it for you if you want to spend the money. Otherwise, let your loading dies do their work, and remove the dents.
 

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Porting a Government model is very popular. It also removes metal of a structural nature. Depending on how aggressive you get in metal removal determines how much you undermine John Moses' masterpiece design. Mine is minimally ported, you have a difficult time noticing unless you place it next to an unported slide. Case denting has been reduced. As far as consistantly depositing empties in close proximity to one another, that's a tough nut for 1911s to crack. The Commander ejector bumps the case out a little sooner than the 1911 style, possibly while the extractor still has more purchase on the rim which theoretically will aid in consistent ejection. AC
 

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Did we REALLY dredge up a 9-year old thread here? C'mon guys..........surely we can start something original! :bandit:
 
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Zombie thread!

I have continued to shoot the Colt as is and no function issues. The cases still show dents even with a lighter spring I have for National Match but I can live with that. For CCW I have an H&K P7 and am extremely impressed with it. SW
 

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Leanwolf is correct. The gun is not ported.......meaning the Gov't. Model has a smaller ejector port. This is common with unmodified 1911s. Leave the extractor and springs alone. There is nothing wrong with the gun. Later Colt's other models like the Commander have the lowered ejection port, as do just about every other brand out there, but the Gov't. model was left as it was. The dent is caused when the brass hits the inside of the slide while being ejected, and having the ejection port ground away on the lower edge will stop this problem. Don't do it yourself, and have a 1911 specialist do it for you if you want to spend the money. Otherwise, let your loading dies do their work, and remove the dents.
Well, as long as the OP chimed back in. The above response is entirely correct. Original colt ejector ports in the slide do this. Normal fix is to open up (lower) the port. Not sure if any of the other suggested changes will help. Springs probably won't.
 
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