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As I have mentioned earlier the biggest violation of our rights (In general) will happen at a local State and City level especially if your State and City "Guberment" is a majority "Libertard" left Democrats. It has gotten to the point where these Libertards will continue to obstruct and disobey laws that go against their beliefs. They can only lie cheat and steal to get their way. In Hawaii the 9th court ruled in favor of open carry but the local "Guberment: continues to "Obstruct" and continues to "Conspire" against our 2nd A rights.

https://www.khon2.com/news/local-ne...ests-more-time-to-fight-open-carry/1336030782

P.S--Guberment is a term that describes a corrupt Govenment such as that found in a "Banana Republic" and is not for the people.
 

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I do believe you are right, on an up note I read where Hillsdale is forming several first class shooting team's it was in the news wire.
 

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Living here in NYS under the idiot Cuomo, I couldn’t agree with you more. We are living proof of your theory.
 

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"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people"

This is the Tenth Amendment. It is legal for any State to regulate/restrict/ban any firearm. If you want to fight it, bring a lawsuit, or have the regulations removed by ballot. Your other option is to move.
 

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"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people"

This is the Tenth Amendment. It is legal for any State to regulate/restrict/ban any firearm. If you want to fight it, bring a lawsuit, or have the regulations removed by ballot. Your other option is to move.
I guess by the same token the State can declare that it is a sanctuary State for bump-stocks and override the Feds ban on them? Or, legalize marijuana which would overturn the Feds making it illegal?
 

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I guess by the same token the State can declare that it is a sanctuary State for bump-stocks and override the Feds ban on them? Or, legalize marijuana which would overturn the Feds making it illegal?
Yes. That is how it works. If you've got the voting majority, you can get ballot initiatives passed. An issue needs to be written up, ballots need to be circulated and signed by a certain number of registered voters, and presented to the State, a filing fee paid. The State will go through the signatures, check them against voter rolls, and if it checks out, you have the required number, then your item is on the ballot.

It's funny that you bring up marijuana legalization. Stoners have been characterized as dumb and lethargic, but somehow they got organized, obtained enough signatures to get their initiatives on the ballot, and passed by election in 37 States. We shooters like to think we're sharp, aware, and organized, yet the Feds and the States will never get off our backs.

Maybe we could learn something from the stoners. They did things we can't seem to get done. Maybe stoners aren't dumb or lethargic, and the Government lied about it. Same as they lie about guns.
 
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The Left Wing loonie tunes have implanted themselves in every aspect of our lives. Starting with schools, school boards, and the ranks of the people that teach our children. All too often Conservative minded people were "go along to get along" personalities and worse, some of them didn't have the spine to stand up to Political Correctness, which was the first step to their Fascist goals. The changing of our society has taken place over decades, it did not happen overnight. We either tolerated it or ignored it. MISTAKE.

Left Wing Judges managed to get appointments to the Bench. All too often they Legislate from the Bench, as the SCOTUS did with Obama Care.

I have seen the downtown council put "rainbow" crosswalks on the borough streets. :hmmmm2: One of the local radio stations interviewed college-age people crossing the streets downtown. Those young people have grown up in a LEFT WING Fascist environment, and the governing of the University is Socialist. Of course, the young people overwhelmingly approved of this exercise in stupidity.

That same radio station read a blurb from one of the people on the Borough Council who played back Left Wing rubbish about the Statue of Liberty.

I called in and read the Radio Host the Riot Act, and told him that the Council member doesn't know anything about HISTORY. I know who that Council member is, a poor little rich kid that got his money the old fashion way, he inherited it. :stupid:

I also challenged that radio Host when he tried to blame Trump for an issue that the LEFT has been blocking in Congress. Then he stated that Trump was in office for TWO YEARS. The Left Winger's stretch the truth or just LIE. I called that radio show and read him the Riot Act on the air.:motz:If we sit back and do nothing, then we are to blame for allowing it.

It is unfortunate that we have to SUE the government to get them to obey the Constitution.


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The 10th does not override the second, see Heller and McDonald.

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people"

This is the Tenth Amendment. It is legal for any State to regulate/restrict/ban any firearm. If you want to fight it, bring a lawsuit, or have the regulations removed by ballot. Your other option is to move.
 

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The 10th does not over ride the second, see Heller and McDonald.
Read the Majority Decision as written up by Justice Scalia. It's too long for me to print here. Heller vs McDonald affirms the right to own and possess firearms,but leaves the door open for States to enact certain restrictions. Here's a quote from Scalia: "Like most rights,the Second Amendment rights are not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever,in any manner whatsoever,for whatever purpose".

Read the rest,and see that "reasonable restrictions" are legal under the Heller vs McDonald ruling. If you want to change any State Law,you have to work through the Court or Legislative branches.
 

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Yes. That is how it works. If you've got the voting majority, you can get ballot initiatives passed. An issue needs to be written up, ballots need to be circulated and signed by a certain number of registered voters, and presented to the State, a filing fee paid. The State will go through the signatures, check them against voter rolls, and if it checks out, you have the required number, then your item is on the ballot.

It's funny that you bring up marijuana legalization. Stoners have been characterized as dumb and lethargic, but somehow they got organized, obtained enough signatures to get their initiatives on the ballot, and passed by election in 37 States. We shooters like to think we're sharp, aware, and organized, yet the Feds and the States will never get off our backs.

Maybe we could learn something from the stoners. They did things we can't seem to get done. Maybe stoners aren't dumb or lethargic, and the Government lied about it. Same as they lie about guns.
Yes--Stoners not so dumb and lethargic (Maybe the weed helped them to "Focus" on their mission). My theory of why gun owners do not seem to be able to organize and unify for our cause is that most are very independent folks who tend to deal with their own problems themselves. This makes us less organized as a group. Also, I know of many gun owners who just own 1 firearm and have the mindset that the politicians would never take away their 1 gun that they use for protection.

Also, your response that the only other option is to move somewhere else is not too far off from what is occurring here. Many who were born and raised here have moved due to the high cost of living created by 6 decades of Democratic rule. Also, many have moved to seek a State that is more tolerant of conservative views and more gun friendly. We are paying the price in a shortage of skilled labor: Electronic technicians, Auto mechanics, doctors, plumbers, IT staff, electricians, etc. All the younger folks are moving and the older skilled labor is retiring leaving a big shortage all the way around. The politicians better wake up and smell the roses as this represents a significant loss of TAX revenue.
 
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