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If you have data on any of the Big Bore Calibers that you would like to share, Here's the opportunity to do that. Please indicate the source of the data, powder, primers used, brass used, beginnming load and max load, as well as beginning velocity and max velocity and pressures if available, and any comments.
 

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You want this here or in Reloading.. ??? I can move it..
 

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I think maybe a sticky like was in Jays spot might be what he's thinking of.

G/J, I just wanna say I think your handling this debacle quite well.
 

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.45-70 Marlin 1895, 22" barrel, CED Millenium chronograph:

350 grain Hornady FNSP
R-P brass
CCI 200 large-rifle primer
50.0 grains of H4198

OAL = 2.55"

Avg velocity 2120 fps

More to follow. This appears to be a darned good hunting load. Accuracy is decent and it's killed every target I've shot with it so far. :roll:
 
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45-70 Marlin 1895 22" barrel

55 grains H4895
Winchester brass
CCI 200 primer
Remington 405 grain JSP
2.550" OAL
Lee Factory Crimp

1791 fps average,measured on Shooting Chrony, and accuracy was terrific
 

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Marlin 1895 45-70 22" barrel
300 grain Hornady hollow point seated to 2.55" COL and crimped with a Lee Factory Crimp Die
Winchester brass, 2.1" trim
CCI 200 primer
55 grains H4198
2170 fps
Approximately 28,000 CUP
Adapted from Hodgdon #27

Marlin 1895 45-70 22" barrel
300 grain Speer UniCor seated to 2.53" COL and crimped with a Lee Factory Crimp Die
Winchester brass, 2.1" trim
CCI 200 primer
55 grains H4198
2175 fps
Approximately 28,000 CUP
Adapted from Hodgdon #27

Marlin 1895 45-70 22" barrel
405 grain Remington JSP seated to 2.55" COL and crimped with a Lee Factory Crimp Die
Winchester brass, 2.1" trim
CCI 200 primer
55 grains compressed H322
1950 fps
Approximately 40,000 CUP
Adapted from Hodgdon #27

Marlin 1895 45-70 22" barrel
420 grain Cast Performance WLNGC seated to 2.55" COL and crimped with a Lee Factory Crimp Die
Winchester brass, 2.1" trim
CCI 200 primer
52.2 grains AA2230
1865 fps
Approximately 38,000 PSI
Adapted from Accurate Arms No. 2

Marlin 1895 45-70 22" barrel
460 grain Cast Performance WFNGC seated to 2.55" COL and crimped with a Lee Factory Crimp Die
Winchester brass, 2.1" trim
CCI 200 primer
47.5 grains AA2230
1725 fps
Approximately 38,000 PSI
Adapted from Accurate Arms No. 2
 

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:D Jackfish - gotta give credit where due ... You pointed me towards that 350 grain/H4198 load several years ago over on Marlin Talk!

I posted it above, 'cause it works out real well.

Thanks! :D
 

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45-70 data

Rifle - 1895 Marlin , 22 inch barrel, Ballard Rifling
Optics - Bushnell 4x Scopechief VI
Bullet - 420 grain GC cast
Powder - 40 grains IMR 4198
Primers- Winchester LR
Chronographed velocity - 1706 fps
Shoots into an inch at 100 yards
 

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Rifle: Marlin 1895GS 18.5" barrel
Optics: Luepold Scout scope / Ghost Rings
Bullet: Oregon Trail 350gr Flat nose cast
Powder: 35.0gr IMR-4198
Primer: CCI-250
Case: Rem
This load produced 1500fps at the muzzle, 1.5" groups at 100yds.

Rifle: Marlin 1895GS 18.5" barrel
Optics: Luepold Scout scope / Ghost Rings
Bullet: Hornady 350gr JFP
Powder: 49.0gr H-4198
Primer: CCI-200
Case: Rem Nickle
I am getting right at 1950fps at the muzzle and 1.25" groups at 100yds.
 

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My most accurate Cast bullet loads

405 gr Oregon Trail Laser-cast (.459")
28 gr SR 4759 (Lyman Manual)
WLR
Starline Brass Trimmed 2.095"
OAL 2.530"
Roll Crimp =5/16 turn after contact
Chronographs 1489 Avg in 1895 GS
Very Clean burning load too.


430 gr TRUESHOT GC bullet (.459")
36 gr IMR 4198 (Oregon Trail Data supplied with bullets, lower end of the range)
WLR
Starline Brass 2.095"
OAL= 2.520"
Roll Crimp 5/16 turn after contact
Chronographs 1492 avg in my 1895 GS
1" c-c groups at 100 yards


405gr Laser Cast Bullet
11 gr Hercules Red Dot (GMDR.com)
WLR
W-W cases
Chronographs 1030 (SD of 9)
Very accurate in my 22" Marlin 1895, no so good in my GG
Same Load with a 300 gr cast bullet is pretty good too but I haven't chronographed it.


Jacketed Bullets

Hornady 350 gr JFP
IMR 4198 36 gr (Speer Manual)
WLR
W-W brass
Chronographs in the 1575 range (only shot one through)
VERY Accurate in my 1895 (22") and nearly so in my 1895GS

This bullet also shot well over AA5744 but left a lot a powder Zombies in the bore, case and chamber.

Other Stuff tried:
VARGET: Shows promise
2400: Poor so far, dirty
Aardvark Bullets. Excellent accuracy, didn't feed well


LEVEREVOLUTION Factory Ammo
1816 fps out of my 1895 GS
Average Accuracy
Brass is much shorter than NON LE 45-70 brass.
 

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SR-4759

Does anyone have 45-70 load data for 300gr cast / jacketed & 405gr bullets using SR-4759? thanks for your help!
 

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Wet Dog posted a 405gr load right above your post, the Lyman manuals, both the 48th and the Cast Bullet, have data for SR4759, I suggest you pick up the 48th, it's a must have of manuals IMO. It has SR4759 trapdoor data for all the bullets you mention, and some in 1895 data too. :wink:

Tim

http://www.cabelas.com/prod-1/0018787214944a.shtml
 

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quickdtoo said:
Wet Dog posted a 405gr load right above your post, the Lyman manuals, both the 48th and the Cast Bullet, have data for SR4759, I suggest you pick up the 48th, it's a must have of manuals IMO. It has SR4759 trapdoor data for all the bullets you mention, and some in 1895 data too. :wink:

Tim

http://www.cabelas.com/prod-1/0018787214944a.shtml
Thanks for the info I have a Lyman from 1970 & the 47th edition but I'll check out the 48th edition also.I saw the 405 load data but wanted some for 300gr Nos PT & Rem.I have Speer,Nosler,Hornaday,Hodgdon,Lyman,NRA,etc,reloading books I guess it's time to buy more.Info from Lyman 49th Edition has data for SR 4759 with cast bullets but none with jacketed. I contacted the owner of Loadbooks USA and bought The Complete Reloading Manual for the 45-70 Gov't.
 

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Thanks a lot for the load data I've been purchasing bullets from Noslers www.shootersproshop.com go to the side bar and click on bullets many available in 6mm,7mm,375,416, 308,etc. and other calibers. They must make Rem bullets as they've been selling them in 300gr HP & 405 gr FP plus 300gr Nos protected point partitions.Told my hunting buddies in PA about the shooters pro shop so they've been buying bullets to reload for all of their different caliber rifles.
 

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I've been buying their 2nds for over two years now, their inventory is considerably depleted in part just due to me :lol: , much of what they had listed are no longer available. :cry: Midsouth beats their factory first prices tho.

You missed out on the best buy anywhere at Cabelas on the 300gr NP, they were selling for $32 or so when everyone else was $40. I think you'll find the Rem 300 and 405 at Cabelas are still less than anywhere else.

Tim

http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item.asp?sku=0011545325

http://cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/pod/horizontal-pod.jsp?_DARGS=/cabelas/en/common/catalog/pod-link.jsp_A&_DAV=MainCatcat602007-cat20843&rid=&indexId=cat20843&navAction=push&masterpathid=&navCount=4&parentType=index&parentId=cat20843&id=0012707
 

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midway had them cheaper after I bought my rem 458 bullets.I just went out to my reloading room in my garage & located everal of my old reloading pamphlets:Reloaders Guide for Hercules Smokeless Powder with 45-70 listings for 1873 Springfield & 1886 Winchester using blue dot,2400 and reloader 7;Winchester Ball Powder Loading Data 1973,405gr sp bullet ,630 powder 20.5gr at 1310fps & 18000 c.u.p.; Hodgdon's Reloading Data Manual #19 2nd edition maybe 1964:powder 1# can $2.50;20# keg of H110 $45,50# keg $90 & a 100# keg $165 same prices for BL-C Lot2, H335,H375,H380,H450.4895 100# keg $190;H570 & Sperhical H870 100# keg $65,4831 100# keg $65 & 5010(M.G.) 100# keg $65 slowest powder.Oct 1974 Am Rifleman Marlin 1895 ad suggested retail $185.century arms ad m91 argentine mauser,7.65 mm good condition $64.95.
 

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Midway sometimes has good sale prices, but if check their shipping, they usually take you to the cleaners on bulk bullets unless they have their bulk bullet sales going. Right now they want $103 and $23 shipping for 500 of the 405gr Rems that are out of stock again :roll: , Cabelas wants $95 for the bullets and $11 to ship, it pays to look around. My last order for 500 of the 405gr at Cabelas was $71 shipped compared to $82 at Midway, it's been a couple yrs tho, I think, time flies. :wink:

I don't think it's wise to use that old data with current powders, but that's just me, course if you have old powder to use up, that old data might come in handy. :wink:

Tim
 
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