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Well, I hate to say it, John but with all the negative BS fueling the hate against LE lately, it just doesn't surprise me. Our country is in a serious sad state of affairs.


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So he reined supreme in BLM movement? Can you imagine when a true hero dies what kind of funeral they will receive!

nothing but "crickets chirping"! Let me stop before I get in trouble!

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They drove his golden casket through the streets in a horse-drawn buggy for his funeral. The photo I saw in my news feed reminded me of Lincoln’s funeral procession...he now has an unassailable marble monument in the nation’s capital.
I wonder what Floyd’s monument will look like?
 

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this will keep going till somebody "the republicans" cause demarats won't, do something to stop it. it will take somebody with cods, and I don't know if there is any men left with any, they have all been castrated,,,,,,,,,,
 

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I am so fed up with all of this. I retired frm LE and this is one of the mosts dangerous jobs in the world right now. When are we going to take our Sovereign Nation back? Floyd was not any kind of hero. It was wrong how he died but the officers involved are paying the price for their actions. And downtown Seattle rioters taking over a 6 block area stating the you are now leaving the USA and the police abandoning a precinct. This should not ever have happened. Our Country saddens me deeply right now.
 

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Not really sure how he died, as the Hennepin County Medical Officer doing the 1st autopsy found the cause of death was NOT from asphyxiation but probably from a combination of probable causes including fentanyl and methamphetamine. Strange why he didn’t indicate the quantity/amount of drugs in his system. The defense team will sure look at that, as if he was on the verge of ODing, but right now that makes no difference to the mob and their handlers and supporters.

In my opinion, all this has political implications, as the slim balls want the Donald out of office so they can go back to their old corrupt ways. Wrecking a solid economy, putting 40 million People out of work, handing out Trillions of dollars while locking down businesses and putting out false information on the chicom virus - riots and every liberal/socialist/communist butt wipe - and there’s a few of them and they get all the fake media/social media attention 24/7 and it will continue up to November - no doubt, in one form or another.

When you realize that the dems weaponized the fbi, nsa, cia, irs and who knows what other alphabet agencies - they want all that power back and they are putting the foot to the metal, as they can’t afford to have a “progressive” scotus judge replaced by the Donald. Not that the Donald makes good personnel selections to rid these agencies of the slimball holdovers - they are still in place and ready to move if they can pull this shit off.
 

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Am I correct to state more cops than rioters have died since this all started? If not, certainly by the ratios of 'protesters' (wrongdoers) to law enforcement numbers.

One stupid cop who deserves to go to prison compared to what all the riotors are doing?

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this will keep going till somebody "the republicans" cause demarats won't, do something to stop it. it will take somebody with cods, and I don't know if there is any men left with any, they have all been castrated,,,,,,,,,,
Ain't gonna happen. Republican politicians, right now and for several years now, are feckless cowards hiding under their desks. Worried about their re election only. Forgot all about that oath they took when assuming office. Might finally be time for the rest of us to get in gear, poke the bustards in the chest and tell them to grow a set or get out. Let the shifty shumers and the san francisco queen have washington. See how they like it being out of work from a lifetime really plush position where you really don't do anything other than speechify and get two hundred dollar haircuts
 
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Please read the entire post before turning out with lever actions to track me down.

I get it, I do. The actions of one officer, who should never have been retained after what seem to be validated brutality complaints (I could easily be wrong), brought long simmering anger toward police to a boil. Yes, there are bad police officers out there, who in my opinion should not be. There are officers who act imperiously and officiously. The anger has been brought out, even on this forum, where police were labeled cowards for not doing whatever some keyboard kop thought should be done. I agree, the police in Seattle should not have ceded control of the precinct; a judgment call by whoever made it was a bad one. Or, in another light, was it? We have the luxury of second guessing or Monday morning quarterbacking anyone's actions. So, was it a bad call or was it the best call under the circumstances. Could it be that the officials decided, that as bad as property crime is, taking a human life is worse? How many people would have been injured or killed, including police officers, if the order had been to wade in and do whatever was necessary? I think there was no good answer.

I will say the situation was allowed by upper echelon commanders to get out of control. Had it all been dealt with immediately, it would not have become the issue that it has. On scene commanders should have been the ones making the decisions, not a commander or Chief (I guess that word is offensive to some now) ensconced in a mobile command post someplace.

In all actuality, this nonsense has been perpetuated by the media, who couldn't tell the straight truth if they had too. Media and politician hyperbole exacerbated it as well. Next thing you know, we have people overseas rioting and raising hell.

Now, to my final thoughts for this post. I'm sick and tired of the profession I love and made a career of being cursed by all sides, including the keyboard kops who said it should have been done their way and because it wasn't, ALL police, apparently current and retired are cowards, have no testicles, are emasculated, ad infinitum ad nauseum. Yes, a look needs to be made across the board about use of force matters. Periodic review and adjustment is a good thing so long as it isn't change just for the sake of change. Folks, I assure you I am NOT a coward and it ticks me off to be lumped in the same category as the deputy in Broward County. So, please don't presume the average officer on the street is a coward or lacking in courage. After all, would you want the job today, under the circumstances as they are? Me, no, I'm glad I retired. And if someone chooses to believe anything negative about me, such a my being a liar, a coward, a waste of skin, whatever, for pity's sake, keep it to yourself.
 

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Kevin,
I come from a family of LE. Some of it military LE. I always thought I would fall in with my uncles and cousins, but unfortunately when the time came I couldn't pass the physicals.
I have always been disappointed at the circumstances until now. Now there isn't enough money to put up with what these guys and girls do, wear a target on their back, take the mental, emotional, and physical abuse that comes with the badge.

We, as a society have conveniently forgotten just why we have the police in the first place. We pay the police to do the dirty work we as a society either don't want/don't have the stomach to do.
We can give the police some guidelines to follow, but when the things all go awry split second decisions must be made. The officer doesn't have the ability to "call his boss for advice". Situations like that will bring to light what kind of character the individual officer has.
I believe that whenever society goes back to volunteering to be a part of law enforcement we may, just maybe be able to have police that we feel are more above refute. Whenever it isn't "just a job".
But even then, we will never be free of rogue law enforcement and a reasonable society will accept that. What is happening now is merely using it as an excuse to riot and loot.
Sorry I went left here, I'm struggling to find the words.....Rant over........BTW, Kevin, I'll take your six any time.....
 

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Good posts, Kevin and Mike. My take is much of what were witnessing today against LEO's is being promulgated by certain elite PTB. Damn them to hell!

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Kevin,
I come from a family of LE. Some of it military LE. I always thought I would fall in with my uncles and cousins, but unfortunately when the time came I couldn't pass the physicals.
I have always been disappointed at the circumstances until now. Now there isn't enough money to put up with what these guys and girls do, wear a target on their back, take the mental, emotional, and physical abuse that comes with the badge.

We, as a society have conveniently forgotten just why we have the police in the first place. We pay the police to do the dirty work we as a society either don't want/don't have the stomach to do.
We can give the police some guidelines to follow, but when the things all go awry split second decisions must be made. The officer doesn't have the ability to "call his boss for advice". Situations like that will bring to light what kind of character the individual officer has.
I believe that whenever society goes back to volunteering to be a part of law enforcement we may, just maybe be able to have police that we feel are more above refute. Whenever it isn't "just a job".
But even then, we will never be free of rogue law enforcement and a reasonable society will accept that. What is happening now is merely using it as an excuse to riot and loot.
Sorry I went left here, I'm struggling to find the words.....Rant over........BTW, Kevin, I'll take your six any time.....
Thanks Mike. I know you’re there for me and other LEO’s, I really appreciate it.
 

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Good posts, Kevin and Mike. My take is much of what were witnessing today against LEO's is being promulgated by certain elite PTB. Damn them to hell!

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Well said sir! I agree.
 

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There’s a lot going on and I don’t believe any of it has to do with police tactics. It’s a major election year and the rats are going for broke to get The Donald out and re-establish their ole ways of doing business.

What do we know of the Minneapolis incident? All I know is a cell phone video was taken and the criminal was complaining he was having difficulty breathing. We haven’t seen or heard the video from the 4 officer’s body cams yet. We don’t know the quantity of fentanyl and meth in his body, so was he actually overdosing at the time of arrest? We do know he didn’t die of strangulation, as the Medical Examiner said so in his report. The family hired gun said the felon died of strangulation but that was expected.

When in a large metro area controlled exclusively by socialists/communist/pinko liberals you can expect trouble ever so often by these left wing groups against the establishment/our culture/American values and it more often than not involves the police, as they are in the front lines enforcing societies rules.

Like it or not, the police are controlled/regulated by “politicians” just as is our Military. Politicians select the chief and mandate policies. In some departments promotions beyond Lt. is mostly political. The mayor gives marching orders to the chief and did so in Seattle and Minneapolis. The rank and file would hold their ground and prevail over all adversity if allowed to do so.

Taking a knee is not something an officer would consider but would probably comply, if ordered to do so. An officer with other job skills that would command the same yearly salary as a police officer would probably tell the chief and mayor to kiss his rear and stand tall.

Everything seemed to be firing on all cylinders last December, in spite of all the political bs the libs were throwing, such as mueller et al, impeachment etc. - then came the chicom virus and that idiot Fauci, who claimed the virus couldn’t spread from human to human, then wearing a face mask could be counter productive/harmful as the public wouldn’t know how to put it on correctly, then we could expect 2 million dead in the very near future from this chicom virus - for some sort of political spokesperson, he should have been arrested for making terroristic threats!

We then had left wing majors and governors crying chicken little over not having enough hospital beds/supplies while not utilizing 5% of the staffed areas with thousands of beds and necessary equipment made available by the US Military and volunteer/charitable groups such as that Navy hospital ship, Jarvis center etc. Then most governors shut down their State.

***? After all this turmoil, the left saw another opportunity to wreck havoc with the cellphone video in Minneapolis and other areas and are coming full on and our elected officials are placating to their demands.

There’s going to come a time when Joe Six-Pack either stands tall and lays the lumber to these socialists or else just throws in the towel and hopes for the best for his children and their children in the future. Right now our elected officials are AWOL and Joe Six-Pack will speak in November 2020. That’s my take on things and I’ll not be told to stay home or to wear a mask.
 
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