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I ask HDY if there was any data for 356 win., 200 gr. FTX. bullet and Leverevolution powder. This is my answer.
Mr. XXXXXXX,

LEVERevolution powder, that you can purchase over the counter, is not compatible with that cartridge and bullet combination. The LEVERevolution ammunition that we sell uses a powder which is a combination of other powders and components as well as that powder for a base. We have over 30 blends of this powder we mix here in our facility to load our ammunition and it is a proprietary powder and only used in our Superformance line of ammunition.

Thanks,

Well I guess I'm on the hunt for AA2460 powder because its on HDY data that looks promising to me.
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I've got some relad data on LV and the 356 if you want. Send me a pm if you would like it.
 

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Don't waste your time with Hodgdon concerning this matter either!, that was a TOTAL!! waste of ten minutes of my life!! (I called them):vollkommenauf:
 

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Don't waste your time with Hodgdon concerning this matter either!, that was a TOTAL!! waste of ten minutes of my life!! (I called them):vollkommenauf:
I know I did the same a while back. their answer was not enough interest in the 356 Win. to bother. You would think they would just have more re-loaders use their new powder and make their decision with their rifle. Not all powder they list will be settle on with individuals rifles. Or if its the only powder you may have at hand.
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LEVERevolution powder, that you can purchase over the counter, is not compatible with that cartridge and bullet combination. The LEVERevolution ammunition that we sell uses a powder which is a combination of other powders and components as well as that powder for a base.
I don't know who answered your question but he has his wires crossed.

According to Hodgdon:

Yes, this is the same spherical propellant used in Hornady's innovative and award winning high performance factory ammunition.
Also, Steve Hornady said that this was not a "mix" of powders, but a new stand-alone powder; a new formulation.
 

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Smokinjoe The email in response wasn't signed just THANK YOU. I couldn't find a phone number to talk to a person only a email link.
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There was a time when you called HDY for advice and you couldn't get the tech off the phone. WOW what happen?
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Good question. I remember many years ago, I called Hodgdon for some advise and the answer was "Good morning, this is Bruce Hodgdon, what can I help you with?"

After I picked my jaw up off the floor, we had a 15 minute conversation about loading Pyrodex. :biggrin:
 

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308/338, I don't mean to inject mud in the water here, but Johan Loubser, the Accurate Arms ballistician, has advised that the 2460 is better suited to the lighter 180GR bullets, & AA2520 for 200GR'Rs, due to the 2460's faster burn rate & I think 35remington has mentioned it in his testing of the .35 caliber rifle cartridges as well. But if you plan to use the FTX, you may be getting into dangerous territory because of its deep seating in the case, which could cause unsafe pressures with anything other than LVR powder. BTW, Hornady's # is 800-338-3220
 

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jd45 HDY'S data show AA2460 to be the highest in vel. with in the 356w. and 200 gr. FTX. just going by their website loading data. I copied and saved it chick on the link below.
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There are sure a bunch of people now using this powder in the 308 (winchester) and in various calibers using cast bullets. Even though there is significant data for the 30-30, all the data is for jacketed. A few over on Cast boolits forum have worked up loads for 195gr, 185 and 170gr. boolits. Leverevolution doesn't seem to like low pressures at all, and there definitely seems to be a fine line where it works.

Since it works well in the 35 Rem, I think I'll be working up a load in my 356. Doubt I would even try a 180gr. bullet, though.
 

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I've gotten higher velocities with LVR than 2460 with the ftx bullet in a 356. Honestly I kind of really like this powder.
 
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Sounds good Dr. A But I got to believe that Hodgdon would like to include LE powder in as many of calibers/cartridges as possible to boaster its many uses. No doubt it will work in 338 exp. 308W. etc. but is the best? The 338exp. is listed using LE powder but AA2520 works best is my 338exp. HDY. is the only company I know of who recently put out new/latest 356W. loading data because of their new .358" 200 gr. FTX. bullet. and their data shows the AA2460 in this cartridge/bullet at a Vel. of 2450 fps. Not even AA has this see data below.

Since we do not have any specific lab tested data on this caliber, we can provide you with some guideline, based on calculations and information from other sources. Due to the limited cartridge length, 2520 will be heavily compressed, I would recommend using Accurate 2230 instead. I have also included guidelines for using 2520 with the Express.


Caliber: .356 Winchester
Barrel length: 24”

Powder: Accurate –2230®.
Bullet weight: 180 grains.
Start load: 43.6 grains (2400 – 2500 Fps)
Maximum load: 48.5 grains (2675 - 2775 Fps).LD ca 106%
Bullet weight: 200 grains.
Start load: 41.0 grains (2200 – 2300 Fps)
Maximum load: 45.5 grains (2500 – 2600 Fps) LD ca 105%.
Bullet weight: 220 grains.
Start load: 39.2 grains (2175 – 2275 Fps)
Maximum load: 43.5 grains (2400 – 2500 Fps) LD ca 104%.
Bullet weight: 250 grains.
Start load: 37.4 grains (2050 – 2125 Fps)
Maximum load: 41.5 grains (2300 – 2375 Fps) LD ca 103%.

Powder: Accurate –2520.
Bullet weight: 200 grains.
Start load: 44.0 grains (2200 – 2300 Fps)
Maximum load: 48.0 grains (2500 – 2600 Fps). LD ca 110%

Caliber: .338 Marlin Express.
Barrel length: 24”

Powder: Accurate – 2520®.
Bullet weight: 180-185 grains. SP
Start load: 43.7 grains (2300 – 2400 Fps)
Maximum load: 48.5 grains (2575 – 2675 Fps).
Bullet weight: 200 grains. SP
Start load: 42.8 grains (2200 – 2300 Fps)
Maximum load: 46.5 grains (2475 – 2525 Fps).
Bullet weight: 200 grains. HDY FTX COL ca 2.585”
Start load: 40.0 grains (2200 – 2300 Fps)
Maximum load: 44.4 grains (2375 – 2425 Fps).
Bullet weight: 225 grains. SP
Start load: 38.7 grains (2075 – 2175 Fps)
Maximum load: 43.0 grains (2325 – 2400 Fps).
Bullet weight: 250 grains. SP
Start load: 36.9 grains (2075 – 2175 Fps)
Maximum load: 41.0 grains (2200 – 2300 Fps).

NOTES:
It’ important to note that SAFETY is our prime concern therefore we strongly recommend.
1. ALWAYS BEGIN LOADING AT THE RECOMMENDED MINIMUM “START” LOAD and develop loads in 2% increments towards the MAXIMUM load.
2. If possible, measure the velocity and correlate with our data.


Best Regards
Scott Ziebarth
Ramshot.Accurate.Powders
WesternPowdersInc.Miles City.Montana.


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