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Hi All.

Due to upcoming financial and geographic restrictions in my near future, I am considering consolodation of some of my firearms. Most notably to sell off (or put away in hiding) my semiauto handguns and rifles.

My main focus right now is to see if it makes sense to trade my 336C in 30-30 for a .44 mag lever.

Some of my thoughts are:

1. I am interested in purchasing a revo in the .44mag as a back up.
2. From everything I've read, the .44 is not too far off the 30-30 as
far as effectiveness out to 100 or 150 yards.
3. As a self defense weapon, .44 is rated very well.


Of course, I could keep the 30-30 but money is tight right now....


If I do go with the .44 lever, what type of set up should I be looking at. Primary use will be hunting (deer and other small to medium game).

Thanks and best -Coop
 

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This sort of thing is a very personal choice, but since you asked...

I wouldn't do it. A .30/30 will do anything a .44 mag will up close, but a .44 mag will not match a .30/30 at distance.

BTW, I don't see any money being saved or consolidation in trading the .30/30 for another rifle and then buying another handgun as a back up. :lol:
 

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If you are hunting out to 100 yards the 44 is equal to the 30/30 (actually more powerful with the right ammunition). If you are including self defense in your parameters (the 44 wins). It holds 10 rounds vs 6 and has much more versatility in ammunition (44 specials all the way to >300 grain hard casts for bear defense).
 

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Downeaster said:
If you are hunting out to 100 yards the 44 is equal to the 30/30 (actually more powerful with the right ammunition). If you are including self defense in your parameters (the 44 wins). It holds 10 rounds vs 6 and has much more versatility in ammunition (44 specials all the way to >300 grain hard casts for bear defense).
Which .44 mag load has more energy at 100 yards than a .30/30?
 

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If you can only have one, keep the .30-30.
Ammo is inexpensive, available, and the .30-30 will outperform the .44 in most cases. Especially accuracy.
Nothing wrong with the .44mag for sure.
 

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30/30 got more distance, great out to 150yds

The 44mag's good for under 100yds, but a has a heck of a knock down power and does a lot more damage. After all, it is a self defense cal. (IE...BIG Hollowpoints).
And if you have to use it to protect yourself, it's gonna be at very close range. You don't wanna have to explain to the authorities why you "felt threatened" 100+ yards away. The 44 will take'em right down at pistol velocities the rifle velocitie just adds to that punch.

My 1894 likes the 240grains best. May be big for deer(180gr may be better), but great for bear.
 

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If your going to get the 44mag revolver then I'd say get the rifle to go with it. Consolidate the calibers and save money by reloading and finding a load that works in both guns. The 44mag can be loaded to exceed the 30-30 in the energy category using 240gr bullets but, the 30-30 will win out in the trajectory game. Take a look at Hornady load data for both and you will see.
 

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I'm with the others... if this is about money, stay with what you have. He are some real world comparisons of my Glenfield 30 shooting the Hornady 170-grain FP (T1 - Blue) and my 44T shooting the Beartooth 290 LFNGC (T2 -Red).


30-30 vs 44 Mag - Velocity


30-30 vs 44 Mag - Trajectory


30-30 vs 44 Mag - Energy


30-30 vs 44 Mag - Taylor Index

They both kill things dead but the killing authority of the 44 can't be matched. That is my practical experience in the field with both rifles.
 

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Imashooter wrote:

Which .44 mag load has more energy at 100 yards than a .30/30?

I don't just consider paper energy figures in my comaprison. You also have to consider bullet diameter and weight. Others have mentioned it but the Taylor knock out value of the 44 magnum exceeds the 30/30.

To me, its obvious:

A 300 grain hardcast flat point bullet of .429 diameter is going to pack more wallup than a 30 caliber 150 or 170 point softpoint (at least at closer ranges).
 

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Thanks all for the replies.

I'm not too concerned with the absolute difference between the two. I think that one way or the other, they're "close" enough to eachother not to make a difference to me. Most of my shots are no further than 100 yards and both are effective for defense.

Reloading is not an option where I'll be moving to. I'm employed as a LEO in DC but have had the luxury of residing in VA. It looks like I'll be relocating into DC for a few years, anyway. Hopefully then I'll be able to move back to VA (not even too crazy about MD). Most of my stuff will have to be left with a friend since I will only be able to have my duty weapon and, I believe, a registered shotgun and my lever. Ammo must match the gun and be registered as well. And reloading is a no no as is most other stuff related.

Thanks again Coop
 

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44 magnum is cheaper too. I can get 50 rounds for $20.96 at Wally World. 30/30 is about $10 per box of twenty.
 

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Downeaster said:
Imashooter wrote:

Which .44 mag load has more energy at 100 yards than a .30/30?

I don't just consider paper energy figures in my comaprison. You also have to consider bullet diameter and weight. Others have mentioned it but the Taylor knock out value of the 44 magnum exceeds the 30/30.

To me, its obvious:

A 300 grain hardcast flat point bullet of .429 diameter is going to pack more wallup than a 30 caliber 150 or 170 point softpoint (at least at closer ranges).
Hmmm, it's not so obvious to me... The Taylor Index on a 16 pound bowling ball rolled at 5 fps by a 10 year old is more than 25 times higher than a 290 grain .44 mag at 1,700 fps.

LOL! I did say this sort of thing was a very personal choice in my first post.:)

To each his own. You're certainly not underarmed with a .44 mag carbine.
 
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Yeah, but what kind of penetration are you getting with your AMC?

Bigger holes bleed more.

Cheapest ain't always best.

All other things being equal, whatever you shoot best with is the better choice.

If the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a damned nail...

etc., etc....

:D
 
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