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This is my tested 410 load for hunting birds up to grouse and for sporting clays. Also I use Lt-SKT up to Lt-Mod the latter for 40 yards shots. Super-X-HS hull, AA410HS wad, 209Win primer, 17.0 grs of 300MP, and 11/16 ounce of #8 hi antimony shot. This has worked unbelievably great for about 8 years now and say about 4,000 rounds spent. Tested at 1225 fps at 9,200 psi. I shoot the 410 and 28 gauge for Grouse, wood cock, quail, and sporting clays. I shoot my hunting guns for all clay games because they are what I hunt with. I shoot side by side with guys using 12 gauges with +32" barrels who shot 85-95 scores while I only in it for the fun run 75-88 for scores. My 26.5" small gauge O/U's do wow them and I get asked what chokes are you using. My reply SKT & IC. Kept with in the 410's range it is a real killer of small birds. Most shots are in thick cover from 15-30 yards but many, many birds get dropped at 40 yards effectively.
 

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You, sir, are doing very well with your mouse gun. Congratulations!
 

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11/16 ounce of shot at 1225 fps doesn't care what gun it is shot from. As long as you center the pattern a 40 yard quail/dove is just as dead from either a 12 gauge or a 410. The 410's effective patterns seem to be only 24" not 30" ish. Pattern any shot gun at the distances you plan to use them at to see their chokes actual effective ranges. AS for the best youth gauge for target and small birds it the 28 gauge. When they can handle the added recoil an one ounce of 5-6 shot drops pheasant just fine!
 
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