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Recently bought a new 1894FG -- This is my first LongGun for the .41 ( Although I'm a big , long-time Fan of .41 Mag . with several Favorite Handguns in the cartridge ) .

Right now , I'm centering on only HEAVY-FOR-CALIBER Hardcasts -- to develop loads for the new rifle ( 250 Gr . and UP ! ) --- just opened some Beartooth 280 Grainers , to try first . -- ( Impressive lookin' lead ) .

Would shore like to hear some good stuff about , -- FAVORITE LOADS , -- VELOCITIES IN VARIOUS LENGTH BBLS. , FAVORITE POWDERS , --- Feeding in the M1894 , --- Philosophy , --- and anything else on the subject .

----- Nose To The Trail ,, ---------- MMCOUGAR .
 

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MMCougar, I'm a big .41 Mag./1894S fan, too, but if you can get those 280 grain bullets to function in your 1894FG, you're a better man than I, Gunga Din!!

I could not get the 265 grains BTB bullet to do anything but jam solidly in my Marlin. Had to take out the lever just to clear the round from the magazine/carrier area.

One of the posters here has got the same 265 grains BTB bullet to work in his Marlin, seating at 1.700", but I can't.

Now, 220 grains bullets work like a champ in my Marlin. I figure they'll do all I need, anyway.

Good luck. L.W.
 

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MMCougar, I'm a big .41 Mag./1894S fan, too, but if you can get those 280 grain bullets to function in your 1894FG, you're a better man than I, Gunga Din!!

I could not get the 265 grains BTB bullet to do anything but jam solidly in my Marlin. Had to take out the lever just to clear the round from the magazine/carrier area.

One of the posters here has got the same 265 grains BTB bullet to work in his Marlin, seating at 1.700", but I can't.

Now, 220 grains bullets work like a champ in my Marlin. I figure they'll do all I need, anyway.

Good luck. L.W.
 

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Reply to LEANWOLF -- ** AND MORE ON THE MARLIN JAM !

LEANWOLF , -- Have some recent posts ( this Forum ) -- describing my experience taking a brand-new 1894FG out of a factory fresh box -- and having nose-up jamming problems with two types of new factory ammo. ; -- ( Federal 250 Gr. Cast-Core , and Remington 170 Gr. Semi-JKTD ) , both of which I'm sure are @ SAAMI OAL .

I bought the ' 94 , .41 Mag. , knowing full-well of the " Dreaded Marlin Jam " -- but I'm after a very short , light , backpack and fishing carbine .

Before I bought it , Marshall Stanton ( of Beartooth Bullets ) was kind enough to come on the phone and talk to me for about 10-15 minutes on this very subject .

I also talked to Jim Brockman ( Ace gunsmith that specializes in Marlin L/A . ) .

Both assured me that the M1894 could be smithed to feed the BTB 280 Grainer reliably -- ( at about 1.73 " ! ) .

I bought the piece planning on having it customized , -- so , no problems .

BUT FIRST I SENT IT BACK TO MARLIN . --- I don't have it back yet , -- but it's been shipped !! ( after only about 9 days in the warranty shop at Marlin !! ) --- That's pretty damn good service , during hunting season .

According to the Lady at Marlin , they replaced the Stock , -- ( there was a minor flaw in the inleting ) .

AS TO FEEDING : -- they polished the chamber , replaced the carrier , and adjusted the extractor .

BOTTOM LINE IS , --- ALL OF THE ABOVE EXPERTS INDICATE THAT A FEEDING JOB ON THE '94 IS NO BIG THING , -- IF THE SMITH KNOWS THESE GUNS .

Brockman advised to send him a few dummy rounds of the load I want to feed . -- He will minister to it beyond the factory fix ( which is no doubt tuned to SAAMI , OAL ) .


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MMCOUGAR, Leanwolf was talking about me as the person who was able to get the 1.700 COL to work. As I said to him it was just blind luck that I didn't have to rework the carrier but I didn't.

Now as to my loads ( with all the qualifers being stated :) ) I got these from the Hodgdon Annual Manual which goes up to 265 gr bullets for loading data. All readings are 10' from the gun.

LilGun 17 1/2 gr. - 265 BTB gc ave. 1578 fps. ( most accurate load )
LilGun 20 1/2 gr. - 265 BTB gc ave. 1650 fps. ( 1.10 " at 75 yds. )

Also shot the 250 gr. Fed. Castcore load and it ave. 1491 fps. out of my gun. This load shoots a .95" group out of my gun.

I will say that so far I haven't had any luck with any other factory loads but I haven't tried the Winchester 240 gr. load yet.

Hope this helps Ron
 
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REPLY TO -- HOWDYC -- 1894FG , .41 Mag .

THANKS FOR THE 265 Gr . LOADS , --- Just got the FG back from the Factory ( elapsed time 13 days from the day I mailed it , to the day I got it back ; -- not bad for Hunting Season ) . -- If the 280 Gr. BTB's don't work out , -- I'll go to the 265 Grainers , for sure .

They did the following : ---- Replaced the Stock ( there was an inletting flaw ) , ---- Adjusted the Extractor , ---- New Carrier , ---- Polished Chamber .

It now feeds the 250 Gr. Federal CastCore , and the Rem . 170 Gr. SJKTD perfectly .

I'm going to send it to Jim Brockman ( Levergun specialist Gunsmith ) , next . -- He assured me by phone he could get it to feed the 280's ( BTB's ) . -- I believe these rounds will be about 1.73 OAL .

Not sure about this , --- but given the chatter here , on FG's with feeding problems , -- I'd say the entire technical problem resides in the above three action modifications .

I'll report to you guys soon as I get it back from Brockman .

Nose To The Trail , -------------- MMCOUGAR .
 
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