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There's so much data on this topic I'm hesitant to even ask but here it goes anyway. I'm starting with a 381"-250gr cast bullet commonly referred to as the wet dog bullet. Long starline brass. I have gotten as far as figuring out that a .381 bullet is as large as I can cleanly chamber. And I've trimmed .030" off my brass to achieve a good length to crimp in the groove and not engrave the bullet on the rifling. Lubed with the infamous WWW....no red die or any coloring at all. I figure I will begin by trying the 10gr of unique. If anyone has any tips they have discovered on the cowboy guns like bullet jump etc. has anyone ran this bullet through a lubrisizer with any luck if so what lube may work well this way?
 

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Well like everything else what works good for one may not for another-----had been using .379 in mine went to a Oregon Trail 240 gr .380 diam---2400 powder in both-----.379's were so so --.380's tighten groups up much better------o.k.---so if .380's were better--why not try .381's-(that I accidently got a bunch of)-----results were little worse than the .379's---several of the .381's had to get a little forceful to fully close lever--( short Starline brass on em all--crimping in crimp groove)---never tried Unique powder---but after trying to find some 2400 this weekend--may have to look for other powders!
 

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IMG_20140724_212918943_HDR.jpg Well as I was ordering I went ahead and ordered a 380 sizer as well. Plenty if 2400 on hand thanks to the Tulsa gun show. I've been keeping 2400 in mind. Thanks DLD
 

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Phil... did you purchase a "Wet Dog" mould from Accurate? Or are you just using boolits someone cast?
 

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Hey TB, I ordered a 4 cavity accurate mold. 2 of the wet dog at 382" and 2 cav of a 32-180b checked for my 32-40 at 322". Very happy with the mold. Ordered it on a the largest alum block for longer casting sessions and it works real well. Drops exactly the size I ordered too.
 

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I was really hoping to use my 375449 mold and after exhausting a couple hair brained ideas I decided to just cut to the chase and order a mold. Really my 32-40 forced me into it. Hence the 2x2 mold.
 

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Sparky---if ya get to looking into using the 2400 powder & find some 38-55 recipies let me know-----only thing I could find is one for a 255 gr jacketed bullet--18.0 powder----1410 fps-23500 cup------for safety sake using cast I cut powder to 16.0------using 250 gr cast------been working good at 100 yds--low recoil-pretty accurate--no signs of problems in brass afterwards-----maybe I don't know what the ###** I'm doing or someone else around here has experience w/ 2400 & cast in 38-55------don't hurt to ask!!
 

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Hey DLD.......The 16grs of 2400 works pretty good in my 38-55's. I don't shoot these all the time because I'm too cheap to use gas checked bullets for plinking. If you are using a modern firearm such as a Win Big Bore or Marlin 336 you can run it up to 20grs for hunting. Work it up slow in your rifle.

My Personnel Loads
Bullet: Lyman 375449 278grs. Lead Gas Check
Firearm: Marlin 336 20 inch barrel.
Powder: 20grs. Alliant 2400
Velocity: 1662fps. Avg 3 shots
Temp: 38-40 degrees

Bullet: Lyman 375449 278grs. Lead Gas Check
Firearm: Winchester 94 26 inch barrel.
Powder: 16grs. Alliant 2400
Velocity: 1475fps. Avg 5 shots
Temp: 78-80 degrees
 

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Hey that's what I'm talking about-----Wind & City Slicker thank both ya guys----that info should be of good use to both Sparky & my self-----the only printed info I got is the 18 grs I mentioned above for jacketed bullet---figured cast needed less powder than jacketed-----Darn don't know if I'm getting luckier or smarter ????----According to Winds info I coulda gone down to 13.8 grs & made a real mouse phart load!!----Next time out think I'll try 17 grs --maby can tighten groups up a little & maby try 200 yds instead of 100--( ifin I can catch a kinda not so hot day----100 yd line has cooling fans available --200 doesn't & is off in an isolated area of club ) Temps in mid 90's heat index bout 105 ---need to have a little common sense bout being out there by myself!! Once again--Thanks Guys!!
 

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Sparky-----smarten me up here--is there something different about the "wet dog bullet" ??---noticed my Oregon trail 250 gr only have 2 lube grooves & crimp groove in em--while my Hunter Supply & Carolina Cast g.c. bullets are longer & have 3 lube grooves & crimp groove !
 

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Wet dogs have two standard lube grooves and a plain flat base. They by all accounts fly pretty good. I believe several of the hyphenated crew are using them to good effect. Figured I would tag along on this one because I'm trying to avoid plowing new ground at least for starters. Those fellas have done a lot with this particular chambering.
 

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Sparky---if ya get to looking into using the 2400 powder & find some 38-55 recipies let me know-----only thing I could find is one for a 255 gr jacketed bullet--18.0 powder----1410 fps-23500 cup------for safety sake using cast I cut powder to 16.0------using 250 gr cast------been working good at 100 yds--low recoil-pretty accurate--no signs of problems in brass afterwards-----maybe I don't know what the ###** I'm doing or someone else around here has experience w/ 2400 & cast in 38-55------don't hurt to ask!!
I load 18 grs 2400 and the Lee 250. It shoots very well. I have no pressure issues. I do use the 2.080 brass. I have also tried Unique (accurate!!) but slow and Re7. All were good but the 2400 load was the most consistent.

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My 93 (made in 1894) likes 17.0 grains of 2400 behind a plain base 250gr boolit in the long brass. Has enough recoil that the original sabertoothed crescent steel butt plate forces me to put a wuss pad on my shoulder to avoid bruising.
 
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