padodge said:Has anybody tried to shot groups with these and how do they group? I'm looking into buying some and if they will group half way decent I'll probably buy some. I don't expect them to group as good as my regular load but they will give me much needed practice. My regular load consist of 44 gr. IMR 4198, Hornady 350 gr. FN, either Starline or Remington brass and CCI 200 primer. This load gives me a bit over 1800 fps out of my guide gun and a group of 1 1/2" or less depending on how well I am shooting that day.