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In a local cowboy event shot some of my first cast bullets same were meister 165 size 308.. but shot placement was not good.. was using black powder FFF goex full to the brim.. and some Winchester 748 in 25 grains. but I need something that will work for the 200 and 300 shoot.. I used another guys gun and hit 6 out of 10 at 300.. he had a creedmore sight.. I have a tang and globe ordered from Midway USA.. but the load is important now.. in the gun I shot he had some surplus foreigne powder using 22 grains.. don't know how I could duplicate that????? any of you guys got any cowboys loads to throw at me.. its a 30/30 I measured the end of the barrel did not have a slug to push thru.. caliber said .296

In my 30-30's that I shoot cast I load mostly 150 and 170 grain bullets made from a number of different molds . For powder I use mostly XMP5744 now although in the past I have used quite a bit of SR4759.

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I am thinking that your Meister's are not gas checked(?), and if not, you will need to keep velocities under 1,500 f.p.s. for accurate shooting. With 22 grs. of powder, as your friend is using, I believe he is probably using gas checked bullets with velocities exceeding 1,500 f.p.s.

.296" is tight for a .30 bore diameter. If so your groove diameter is probably at .308" or less. If that is the case, your .308" diameter bullets should work AOK. If not, you might want to try .309-.310" bullets. I find that .309-.310"bullets work better in my .30-30's except for my Marlin 336A Micro- Groove which it shoots .308" bullets just fine (.307" groove diameter).

I would try 12-14 grs. of 4227 or 4759, 14-16 grs of 4198 or 5744 in 13 to 15 gr charges.

With a good tang sight, you should have no problem at all in developing an accurate load at 300. .

Good luck,
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