[bteague]

What is the the diffrence between the 336 action and the 444 action?Was the 444 action beefed upcompared to the 336?If so how?Billy

 

[bteague]

never mind.I used the srarch and found the info .But thanks

 

[Leverdude]

Not sure what you found, but theyre all 336 actions & none are beefed up in any way. Only differences are the ejection port for the 444 & 45/70. Also the 45/70 uses a bigger tube so the hle into the reciever is bigger, the loading ports also bigger.

 

[bteague]

leverdude,When you say they are all 336.What are you saying?are all modern Marlin leverguns 336( 336,444,and1895)?I have heard that the 1895 was in fact a beefed up 336(stronger action).I am just trying to get it all s clear in my old brain.Thanks

 

[Eli Chaps]

leverdude,When you say they are all 336.What are you saying?are all modern Marlin leverguns 336( 336,444,and1895)?I have heard that the 1895 was in fact a beefed up 336(stronger action).I am just trying to get it all s clear in my old brain.Thanks

Nope they are the same.

 

[picketpin]

I'll concur with Leverdude and Eli. All the receivers are the same and the only difference between the 336, 444 and 1895 are the ejection port openings, and the 45-70 has a larger loading gate and opening. The beefed up 1895 receiver is misinformation that has been said and repeated so much on the internet that it has become "fact". I'm currently converting a 30-30 336 to a 444, when I get it back from the gunsmith I'll take some pics of the modifications that are necessary to make it work. I post it on the 444 board.

james

 

[M700]

Threads for the barrel were cut differently for the .450 Marlin I believe. Read that here somewhere.

 

[bteague]

thanks everyone.good info.Billy

 

[Eli Chaps]

thanks everyone.good info.Billy

I believe they are all proof tested to 55k. I might be off on that but I think that's the number.

 

[shawlerbrook]

James, Is JES doing your 30 30 to 444 conversion? I am interested in one this conversion.

 

[picketpin]

James, Is JES doing your 30 30 to 444 conversion? I am interested in one this conversion.

No, looking back that would have probably been much less expensive. I bought a 444ss barrel and magazine tube and other parts from Numjrich and other Marlin-owners members. Got a really nice 336 made in '74 off gunbroker for $216. that was where the good deals ended. the JES conversion would be best if you let him do the whole thing, he has done quite a few. But note, the contour of the 30-30 barrel and the 444 barrel are quite different(the 444 being the same as the 45-70, much heavier). I have to say though a super light 444 built on a 30-30 barreled 336 would be a delight to carry and would need a Guide gun type Recoil pad

http://www.huntingpa.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1764009

james

 

[shawlerbrook]

This may seems like a foolish question, but when rebored, is the barrel somehow remarked to the new caliber? If not, it would seem like a recipe for a future problem.

 

[rbyham]

This may seems like a foolish question, but when rebored, is the barrel somehow remarked to the new caliber? If not, it would seem like a recipe for a future problem.

The old caliber is xxx out and the new one stamped.

 

[Leverdude]

leverdude,When you say they are all 336.What are you saying?are all modern Marlin leverguns 336( 336,444,and1895)?I have heard that the 1895 was in fact a beefed up 336(stronger action).I am just trying to get it all s clear in my old brain.Thanks

Nope, as Erik said theyre all the same. The only difference in any of them besides ejection & loading ports is the threads M700 mentioned. The .450, 308MX & 338MX use a "V" type thread which lets the reciever support the chamber area more than the standard square threads.

 

[Leverdude]

I'll concur with Leverdude and Eli. All the receivers are the same and the only difference between the 336, 444 and 1895 are the ejection port openings, and the 45-70 has a larger loading gate and opening. The beefed up 1895 receiver is misinformation that has been said and repeated so much on the internet that it has become "fact". I'm currently converting a 30-30 336 to a 444, when I get it back from the gunsmith I'll take some pics of the modifications that are necessary to make it work. I post it on the 444 board.

james

The only real modification you should need is opening the ejection port & a 444 tube if I remember right. I had one put together and found out about the ejection port the stupid way, by not being able to eject a loaded round ;D.