now you need an 1886 winchester to go with bthe die set!
33 WCF ????
Anybody familiar with this round? I recently found some dies for sale and have never heard of it. Price is pretty good and per the Chuck Hawks page it sounds like it's a pretty rare caliber.
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Dave,
Don't have one but my Winchester collector friend has several. It was only offered in the 1886 so it limited it's production numbers. It is a real thumper on big stuff like Elk and Bear. My friend and I are in the process of getting his least desirable 1886 up and running with cast bullets. It's
always a fun project getting an older round to speak again and in this case, it'll speak with authority. It was avertised to shoot a 200gr flat nose
bullet to 2200fps as loaded by Winchester. Hornady even offered 200gr FN bullets as a component until several years ago. My friend stocked up
on those before they discontinued them. I used to load the 200gr FN Hornady bullet in my .338WM Ruger #1 @ 2200fps with IMR4064 to try and
shoot a deer to see how the .33 Winchester would have performed but traded the .338WM Ruger before I had a chance to kill one. Gave all my
stash of 200gr FN Hornady's to my friend when I got rid of the .338WM.
358 Win
Don't have one but my Winchester collector friend has several. It was only offered in the 1886 so it limited it's production numbers. It is a real thumper on big stuff like Elk and Bear. My friend and I are in the process of getting his least desirable 1886 up and running with cast bullets. It's
always a fun project getting an older round to speak again and in this case, it'll speak with authority. It was avertised to shoot a 200gr flat nose
bullet to 2200fps as loaded by Winchester. Hornady even offered 200gr FN bullets as a component until several years ago. My friend stocked up
on those before they discontinued them. I used to load the 200gr FN Hornady bullet in my .338WM Ruger #1 @ 2200fps with IMR4064 to try and
shoot a deer to see how the .33 Winchester would have performed but traded the .338WM Ruger before I had a chance to kill one. Gave all my
stash of 200gr FN Hornady's to my friend when I got rid of the .338WM.
358 Win
THe 1895 marlins were chambered in .33 winchester caliber also, theres a thread about them a little ways back. It is a nice old brush round. Don
I love the .33 Win. caliber, especially if you hand load. Factory rounds can be a bit harsh, but as a cast bullet round it's a dandy! Only problem with the .33 today is bullet selection. It's nearly zero. Hard to find a bullet that isn't jacketted, and then maybe one weight, with no options on shape.
If you cast and can get a mold set made by NEI, or find an old Lee mold, (Lee C338-220-1R) that's the way to go. I use an old Ideal mold for mine that drops a 220 gr. bullet and I load all sorts of loads for plinking or hunting. Makes the .33 much more versatile.
If you cast and can get a mold set made by NEI, or find an old Lee mold, (Lee C338-220-1R) that's the way to go. I use an old Ideal mold for mine that drops a 220 gr. bullet and I load all sorts of loads for plinking or hunting. Makes the .33 much more versatile.
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It's about the same as a 35 Remington? Same bullet weight?
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It's about the same as a 35 Remington? Same bullet weight?
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JBledsoe said:.
It's about the same as a 35 Remington? Same bullet weight?
Yes and no. The sectional density of the .33 Winchester will allow it to penetrate better than the .35 Remington if the bullet construction is the same. I believe the bullet construction on the .33 Winchester is a little bit tougher than the early .35 Remington. The .33 Winchester was always considered a "big game" cartridge, Elk, Moose, and big Bear. The only fly in the ointment was that the weight of the .33 Win rifles was quite a bit more than the rifles in .35 Rem. Even the "light weight" models of the 1886 Winchesters was a handful. Sorry I forgot the fact that the 1893 Marlin was also chambered in the .33 Winchester.
358 Win
"Sorry I forgot the fact that the 1893 Marlin was also chambered in the .33 Winchester."
I think you meant to say Marlin 1895.
I think you meant to say Marlin 1895.
Parley Baer,
You are correct. Sometimes my fingers type faster than my brain thinks!!!!LOL
358 Win
You are correct. Sometimes my fingers type faster than my brain thinks!!!!LOL
358 Win
So, is this something that dies would be pretty rare for? Might they be worth something or maybe less if the guns are so uncommon?
Dave,
Dies are still available. My collector friend bought Lee Dies last year thru Midway. Much less expensive than RCBS, Redding, or Lyman. It took some searching to find them however. Not something everybody has in stock all the time, but still out there however.
358 Win
Dies are still available. My collector friend bought Lee Dies last year thru Midway. Much less expensive than RCBS, Redding, or Lyman. It took some searching to find them however. Not something everybody has in stock all the time, but still out there however.
358 Win
And a deer at hunting ranges is going to know all that? ;D ;D358 Win said:JBledsoe said:.
It's about the same as a 35 Remington? Same bullet weight?
Yes and no. The sectional density of the .33 Winchester will allow it to penetrate better than the .35 Remington if the bullet construction is the same. I believe the bullet construction on the .33 Winchester is a little bit tougher than the early .35 Remington. The .33 Winchester was always considered a "big game" cartridge, Elk, Moose, and big Bear. The only fly in the ointment was that the weight of the .33 Win rifles was quite a bit more than the rifles in .35 Rem. Even the "light weight" models of the 1886 Winchesters was a handful. Sorry I forgot the fact that the 1893 Marlin was also chambered in the .33 Winchester.
358 Win
Dies are readily available, so don't pay too much for them. I also see that our own Ranch Dog has Lee molds that would be great for casting a 200 gr. bullet. Here's the link:
http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_5_29&products_id=26
http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_5_29&products_id=26
Well, no point in putting the cart before the horse....
Don't have a rifle, and doubt I'd ever find one. The die set was actually one of the little Lee Loaders and I kinda sort of collect the things. At least for the rifles that I have. Never saw one before in 33WCF.
Don't have a rifle, and doubt I'd ever find one. The die set was actually one of the little Lee Loaders and I kinda sort of collect the things. At least for the rifles that I have. Never saw one before in 33WCF.
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