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I've been using the Hornady 300gr. HP and like it alot. However, I'm wondering how the Remington 300gr. HP compares for accuracy and hunting performance. They're about half the price of the Hornady's. I've liked the Remington Corelokt bullets in other calibers and am wondering if these bullets perform well too. BTW, are these Corelokt bullets also?
I'm not trying to get a fire going here, just looking for some data. :wink:
 

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The 300 grain Remington HP is entirely adequate for deer if not driven too much over 2000 fps. It starts to become a little explosive if driven too fast. My 1895 with the microgroove barrel shoots any 300 grain bullet I've tried well.
 

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The smallest group I ever shot in my 1895 was with the Hornady 300 grain. However, any 300 grain bullet I have tried have shot into at worst 1.5". It is the experience of many 1895 shooters that 300 grain bullets shoot better in the microgroove barrel than heavier bullets. Joe D'Alessandro averaged under an inch with the 300 grain Remington in his Ballard rifled 1895G.
 

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How do you tell if the rifling is micro-groove or ballard? What are the advantages/disadvantages of each ( if it's not alot of trouble to explain)? I bought my GG a couple years ago.
Thanks Robie.
 

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Microgroove barrels have 12 grooves, Ballard 6 grooves. Yours would be Ballard-style rifling. It is easier to get cast bullets to shoot well in the Ballard-style rifling. Lots of people were starting to shoot cast so Marlin made the change. Ballard-style rifling is just fine with jacketed bullets as demonstrated by Joe's groups.
 

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I've got a new batch of Hornady 300 HPs and a big box of Rem 300 HPs
and will be testing them out probably in the next week or two (between
getting out into the woods, and, oh, working). I'm tweaking my
deer hunting load just a bit to get the Hornady 300s right at 2000 fps mv
and will try to do the same with the Remingtons.
 

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Thanks Jackfish and Oldyankee. I'll watch for your test results.
 

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Well, I didn't have a chance to load up the 300 grn Remington HPs yet,
but did some testing on my now "standard" deer hunting load for the
45/70 with the Hornady bullet. I'll load some up with the Remington 300 HPs after Turkey-day and try to obtain the same muzzle velocity, hopefully it will come with a similar powder charge - I'll load a few at a slightly lower powder charge and work up, but this current load seems fairly conservative already, pressure wise. Specifically, this was using the following components:

Hornady 300 grn HP # 4500
New Starline nickel brass, trimmed to 2.095 and full length sized
CCI200 primers
55.0 grains of H322
Crimped with Lee FCD, 1/2 turn past base touching ram.
Avg velocity 2020 fps, ES 35 fps

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Hornady 300 grn HP # 4500
Once fired Federal brass, trimmed to 2.095 and full length sized
CCI200 primers
55.5 grains of H322 (note 0.5 grn difference)
Crimped with Lee FCD, 1/2 turn past base touching ram.
Avg velocity 1982 fps, ES 49 fps

I'm going to have to get a digital camera so I can post pictures sometime, but in the short term, I guess you'll just have to picture in your mind what I'll attempt to describe.

I had previously sighted my 1895 with 22" barrel with Weaver V3 1-3x
scope for 125 yd zero with the Federal 300 grn load. Had to make
alot of adjustment to get this one zeroed for a similar yardage due to
the substantially higher MV. The zero point is now somewhere
between 125 and 150 yds, based on the ballistics.

Accuracy-wise, this load shot well for my 1895 (newer model with that
darned CBS thing). Once the scope was readjusted, at 50 yards
my best 5-shot group was 1 3/8" center to center. If I just kept
the first 3 shots of the 5 shot group, it would actually have been 3/4" ctc and was 1.5 " high. At 100 yards, my best 3 shot group was
1 7/16" ctc. I would have tried for a more representative 5 shot group
at 100 yards, but ran out of ammo - and was also being distracted
by a group of trap shooters going at it pretty rapidly less than 50 yards away. They're good guys, just makes it a little harder to concentrate
at times at the rate they go through clay, and bits of the clays fly over
into the rifle range shooting zone.

I think this load is perfectly good for deer here in the northeast, and
the Hornady 300 gn bullets as you all know are quite accurate in the Marlin. With a higher power scope, or with better eyes (have some
glaucoma damage in my right/dominant eye) I'm sure that someone
could do better than these groups, but they're good enough for me.

I'll try to post a report using Remington 300 HPs within a few weeks.
Hopefully this info is of some use to someone - but it was fun
doing the "testing" anyhow (plus I really needed to rezero this rifle anyhow)

Good luck in the woods, everyone ! Stay safe !
 

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Funny, I have 4 Marlin Levers & 2 bolts and they all seem to like Remington ammo and Hornady bullets. And now Marlin & Hornady are working together on that "Leverevolution" ammo !

I'm starting to see a pattern here 8) .
 
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