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I am knew to the 30-30 and reloading for it. I had a box of Hornandy 170's and 3031 powder on hand. I also have 3 different Hornandy books, they list different charge weights. So I went with a charge of 29 grains of 3031, it should be around 2000 fps. I have not had a chance to shoot it yet.

So I thought you 30-30 vets could give me some history on the bullet's performance at that velocity. My go to hog gun here in TX is the 444,(when I get to go) but this would be a spare.
 

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The newest Lyman manual lists 28.5 grains as max for a 170 gr jacketed bullet. Should be fine if it's a load you got from Hornady, just look for signs of excessive pressure.

I have also just started reloading the 30-30, but have only loaded light bullets so far. That 170 gr Hornady should put a serious stomping on a pig or anything else. My experience with Hornady bullets has always been good.

Please post results when you start firing them, I haven't decided on a hunting bullet yet.
 

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I never start with maximum load. I would start with 27 grains, and work up to max. and look for excessive pressure. That way you not only are safe, but also will find the most accurate load for your gun.
 

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I have the new book from Hornady #8 and it states Primer Fed. 210, HDY. 170 gr. FP., C.O.L. 2.530" IMR-3031 start charge @ 25.4 gr. @1800 fps. 27.0 gr. @ 1900 fps. Max.28.5 gr.@ 200 fps.

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I made up some 165gr. cast bullet loads with 24 gr. 3031 that shoot really nice, recoil was pretty mild. Then I went up to 25 gr. with the same bullet. Recoil was a little more noticeable. 29 gr. will be a pretty stout load. 25 to 26 gr. should be plenty.
 

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I'm trying to recall, but I think I'm correct........IMR 3031 was designed for the 30-30. the name comes from 30 grains with a 170 grain bullet, and 31 grains with a 150, thus the 3031. I have several old manuals with data confirming this. Modern manuals have become more conservative with safety in mind i'm sure. I fired some rounds loaded in 1988 last fall with the 150 and 31 gr. 3031. I didn't chronograph them, but accuracy was great in my '80 336. Charges this stiff probably aren't needed as mentioned. As always, start low, and work up or down as needed.
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Did you check Hodgdon website for data?

Cartridge Information
Case: Winchester Barrel Length: 24"
Twist: 1:12" Trim Length: 2.030"
Primer: WINCHESTER LR

30-30 Winchester
Cartridge Load Data Starting Loads
Maximum Loads
Bullet Weight (Gr.) Powder Bullet Diam. C.O.L. Grs. Vel. (ft/s) Pressure Grs. Vel. (ft/s) Pressure
170 GR. SIE FP IMR 3031 .308" 2.550" 27.5 1959 27,500 CUP 29.2 2085 35,800 CUP


http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load_print.asp?printnow=1

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Thanks for all the concerns. My Third addition lists 31.5 grains of 3031 as the max charge with the 170 grainer for 2200 fps. The 2 newer books I have take the conservative road. It also shows 32.5 with 3031 and the 150 grainer.

I guess I was wondering how the bullet performed around the 2000 fps mark.
 

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Year before last I shot a deer with the 170 gr Hornady at 2130 fps out of my Glenfield. It did not move from where it stood. The yardage was only 62 yards, but it performed quite well. I'm using H4895 in my loads.
 

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3031 is an exellent powder for the 30-30, that's all i used until i tried 4064. it seem to group better in my 30-30's, but i would start out on the low side around 27-28gr. and make up 3rds of each going up .5 gr untill you find the best charge weight, and then you got it whipped!
 

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i had the same results... 4064 groups better than 3031.

next week i'll be testing H4895 against 4064.

PJ's 30-30 load is not bad either. ;D
 
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