About 19-21.00 for a box of green box in 170 grains seems pretty standard here. 30-30 of some type seems always around. My 30-30 prefers the 170 grain Nosler and strangely enough 125 HP. 150 grains I have tried shoot pie plate. Nosler 170 grains fist to hand size for me shooting with Wiliams peep.