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1st Reloads with the 405gr Laser Cast from Oregon Trail (courtesy of bigjeepman)

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When I was making noise a while back about not being able to find my favorite 300gr JHP from Remington, a good friend (Doug) sent me some of these to try out. Where else other than MO is somebody that you never met going to ship you a box full of boolits they bought and pay the postage? Incredible place we have here...



I loaded these up last night on top of my favorite H4198 and headed to the range this morning. Oh my goodness, now I know what I've been missing. Big metplate, can hear it smack the target and a cloud of dust goes up looking like a small plane just crashed behind the target. This is good stuff!









And then the target. Four stringers sighting in and bang, five in the center. Now this was only at 50 yards off a bipod at 4.5 power. But it was fun to watch em all going home to center.



Now to load some more. I used H4198 at 29 grains. No chrony but guessing around 1350-1400.

I'm hooked on lead already.

1895gunner
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Thanks Bugs! I may have to try that powder as well.

I picked up some Unique powder too but it looks like the load would be around 13 grains and I have no idea how to stabalize that small of a charge in such a big case. Folks must use some kind of filler for small loads like that. What charge do you use with RL7 on the 350 pill?

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Hey 1895,

28gr of 4198, with a 405cast chronos at 1200fps. Out of a CB.

You may want to try Universal Clays, as well as Unique. Either powder, the "sweet" spot will be between 13 or 14gr. 14gr of either powder will yield 1100-1150fps with a 405. Out of my CB, the 350's shoot better at 50yds. However, the 405's are shooting 4-1/2" to 5-1/2"@200yds. The 350's are going to 10"@200yds.

No filler needed with Unique/Universal Clays. Have fooled with fillers in the 4198, waste of time. The Universal Clays has single digit extreme spreads.

Will work some 405's up with H 322, in the near future.

Bunch of load data in this thread, was working up the CB. http://www.marlinowners.com/forum/45-70-govt/78432-1895-cb-skinner-sight.html

Hope this helps.

Later, Mark
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Hey 1895,

Take a look here, Lever Gun Performance Studies With the low velocity cast, one wants uniformity. Pay mind to detail, uniform primer pockets/flash holes. Trim brass to uniform length, (this gets a consistent crimp)

Point I meant to make, was the 28gr of 4198 load, recoils half again, to twice as much, as does the 14gr Universal Clays/Unique load.

An old study, by White's Labratory? determined that after bullet weight, the powder charge has the largest effect, on recoil. If I recall, they used a pair of identical bolt guns, one in 308 and the other in 30-06. The 30-06 always recoils more. Takes ten grains more powder, to launch a 150gr pill, at 2800 fps, than does the 308.

Never had a game animal ask, how sore my shoulder was! LOL

Glad you have joined the cast bullet fun.

One more point, is that with cast, (use Welcome To Penn Bullets INC., known Bob 25+yrs) the cost is $250/M, compared to $4,000/M for factory. That's right, cast 45/70's cost me 25 cents a pop! Way more range time.

As you have multiple rifles, would set one up for cast. My Micro Groove required a major sight change for cast. 6" up, and 6" left @100yds. For the Micro Groove, it "liked" the Hornaday 300grJHP and 350JFP @1800fps.

Your mileage may vary. LOL

Later, Mark
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