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OK gentlemen, I am going to be purchasing a new CZ American .17hmr in the next couple of weeks.
I have been reading through many different accounts of cleaning, from every 10 shots, through to not bothering until accuracy drops off after 100 shots.
Now I don’t clean my Sako .22rf at all if I can help it, :wink: as I find that I really don’t need to with modern non-corrosive ammo’.
But what is the .17 like?. Is it fussy with .17 ammo’?
Any comments would be appreciated.
 

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Tenex,
I have three 17s Two HMRs and a 17M2 the HMRs are a Savage and a Marlin that I have had for over 2 years. I cleaned them once and the accuracy dropped off until I had about 50 rounds through them again. In the Marlin manual is says the rifle doesnt need to be cleaned unless it gets wet or accuracy drops off or something to that affect. I have had my M2 for quite a while and have not cleaned it yet. I has no lack of accuracy. They dont seem to be real fussy with ammo either. I shoot mostly Hornady or CCI and both brands shoot great.
 

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Tenex: I have several 17HMR's and I don't clean any of them except for the bolt face, breech face, and a dry ptch on the chamber. They don't seem to like being cleaned!

Have you handled the CZ American? A few weeks back I was in the market for a 17HMR birthday present for my 19 yr old son. We handled the CZ's and a Ruger 77/17. The CZ's were rough as a cob. My son just made a face when he cycled the bolts... the were awful. The Ruger wasn't exactly silky but it was hands-down smoother than the CZ's so we bought it. Just an observation. ~Andrew

(Of course, the Ruger didn't shoot so I had to cough up another $140 for a Green Mountain "Running Boar" barrel.)

(It shoots now, and HOW! .2" at 50 yards for 5 shots!)
 

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Tenex, I have a CZ452 American 17hmr, the bolt feel is rough when new, but I flitzed it, worked it 50-75 times in the action, then cleaned it and it's silky smooth, has been for well over a year and a few bricks of ammo..so I wouldn't let that stop ya, it's my favorite hmr of the 4 I have.

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Thanks gents. Andrew, I have handled the rifle as I have had it put away with a deposit. Granted it isn’t a Sako, but it is a heck of a lot better than the old rifles that were the norm.
I heard that the UK importers went over to Brno to sort out quality control and it does seem to have worked because the wood on this rifle is absolutely beautiful. :)
I know that the actions used to be a bit agricultural, but this one seems bloody smooth as well as strong.
Time will tell I suppose, but if comments from other owners are something to go by, then I think I will be OK with it.
Thanks for the comments anyway. :wink:
 

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I just had a conversation with the guy who gave me my CZ 452 22WMR and he said that when he got it the bolt was very rough. He did the flitz thing and the bolt smoothed out nicely. Indeed, it's pretty smooth now.

I like the CZ's but this was my son's rifle and I also knew that if the Ruger didn't shoot, a new barrel was a phone call away. As it turned out, that was the case. The CZ's I looked at were also quite a bit cheaper than the Ruger. $300 vs $429 an incentive that didn't pan out in this instance. No matter, I had a 77/17 with a Running Boar-style barrel in 17HMR and now my son does, also. Both shoot microscopic groups and we can switch them to 22WMR with the twist of an allen wrench. I'm sure your CZ will drive tacks.

Tenex: Does your rifle come with the new single-set trigger?? These models I looked at didn't. ~Andrew
 

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My CZ 452 American has a rough azzed bolt when I first got it too. I haven't gotten to shoot it yet, but I DID scrub it down and oil it up as soon as I got it home. Worked the action a bunch of times and you could actually fell it getting better with each successive cycling. Hopefully this thing shoots, but to be honest I'd be hatrd pressed to tell if it didn't. :oops: Haven't been to the range in LORD knows how long.
 

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SquirrelSniper said:
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:oops: Haven't been to the range in LORD knows how long.
That is what you get for being a mod ... :lol:

Bill
 

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Andrew, the trigger is the old type, but I am getting one of these triggers to fit-
http://cz452.com/springkit.html

Don’t know if the American is a little bit different, but I have one on order for when the rifle is bought home. :wink:
 

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tenex,
Here is a question out of ignorance. In England can you keep firearms in your home, or do they have to be kept at some shooting club? What about handguns?
 

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Hi BM. Yes you can keep all your guns at home although you are required by law to keep them locked away in a steel cabinet/safe in order to prevent them being stolen.
When pistols were banned most of them were taken away, BUT! Certain pistols of historic interest can still be owned as long as they cannot be chambered for 9mm (9mm is used in nasty films so must be more dangerous).
These pistols cannot be kept at home but instead have to be kept at specialist holding centres (Bisley is one). Anyone owning one of these pistols can then go along to these holding centres and shoot their guns but can’t remove them for any reason even to take them to another holding centre. This must be done by a “Specialist gun removal service”.
All of this obviously prevents any gun crimes from being committed in the UK. :roll:
 

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Tenex, if you find the Brookie kit to be lacking or you can't use the sleeve on your trigger as I found out on mine, check out the AS adjustable sear. I don't know if they'll ship to the UK or not, though. Brownells also carries it, but for $10 USD more.

http://webpages.charter.net/bradtompkins/prod02.htm

Tim
 

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Thanks Tenex, I have always wondered what the laws were there in England. It is truely sad what politicians will do the "keep" people safe. Enjoy that 17! They are a lot of fun.
 

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I recently heard on the news that England was thinking of banning sharp knifes, such as kitchen knives and hunting knives. Have you heard anything about this? It sure is sad whats become of the gun laws in England. If somone ever comes to take my guns...they can take the bullets first if you know what i mean!

As far as cleaning the .17...I have found with all my rifles, both rimfire and centerfire, that cleaning will hurt the acuracy. I clean everything but the barrel, and have had good results with this system.
 

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I heard Tony (frikkin) B. Liar was going to ban cock, (or was that Bangkok) :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
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