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    Iran and N. Korea Nuke Threat and Cyber Security Discussion

    Our national civil defense infrastructure has been insufficient and neglected for way far too long post 9/11. FEMA and DHS continue to ignore their responsibilities to prepare for significant natural and man made disasters; they rely on private sector asset shifting and that’s not something we need a government agency to do.

    If we are seriously concerned about the DPRK or Iranian nuclear programs then a robust civil defense system is warranted to address short term recovery and response. Major threats include the traditional blast damage, fire, fallout and EMP. Add the need for life support: distribution of water, food, medical assistance, communications, and emergency shelter. Of course you here mostly know all this. Most Americans don’t.

    America needs a program of civil defense education on the state and local level that encourages individual and family preparedness, and immediate local response without dependence or waiting for upon the Federal government to save them. The FEMA website is full of great info but it’s very hard to use and of zero entertainment value, so the ignorant masses of people aren’t likely to look at it for education. I would propose a program of CD similar to the one of my youth during the Cuban Missile Crisis and Cold War era. Especially the education and propaganda films, books, and radio programming and PSAs.

    Update the course material to appeal to the current internet audience and technology and to cover all hazards, natural, technological, resource shortages. Schools are obviously a good venue; witness the effectiveness of Earth Day propaganda in teaching the global climate change nonsense... Propaganda works. Best to use it for good and constructive purposes.

    The above all bears on Iran, DPRK, China, et al. A sustained public Civil Defense campaign and infrastructure would signal that America had decided to HTFU (as the youngsters say). An America ready for civil defense is formidable foe, not to be trifled with. Of course that’s a generational project. The college students of the 1960s were the children of WWII. They rejected the CD program and the military-industrial complex to become pot smoking hippies. Rejection of authority remains a possibility today.

    CD is most useful in natural disasters. RACES AND ARES programs show that for communications. Community Emergency Response Plans, Skywarn, Neighborhood Watch and Medical Reserve Corps enhance family and community preparedness reduce dependence upon on state and federal agencies. They build community resilience. Add a little local government stockpiling of emergency supplies to reduce impact on disasters.

    We need another agency other than FEMA to manage this. This all used to be done by DoD, with heavy reliance upon Army Reserves, National Guard and the military affairs liaison of State public safety agencies. I feel that is the best approach now. First step is to make DoD the lead federal agency rather than FEMA as it is now. DHS could be a larger player than they are.

    Use Community Preparedness Block Grants with Federal matching funds to localities to encourage local planning and implementation of emergency protective measures, public information, educational, mitigation, and preparedness efforts. These are easy and cheap actions that could markedly increase our deterrence of foreign attack, terrorism or natural disaster. They need not be onerous to the civilian population.

    This is more a leadership problem than one of resources. It takes more than an Army to defend a nation. Prudent preparedness can address a host of threats natural and manmade. Everyone who agrees with this please post this to your listservs, Letters to the Editor and to your elected members of government. Civil Defense needs to be a campaign issue in 2020!

    P.S.- Granted, the nuke threat is minimal, but of high consequence, IF it occurs. But the current kerfuffle seems centered on Iran's nuclear program.

    Taking our political masters at face value (always a risk), any response program should be tailored to that threat.

    Fortunately a decent Civil Defense program would also mitigate immediate consequences of many SCADA-based attacks. A top tier program would directly address remote telecommunications distributed malware threats to SCADA and distributed data storage and access systems.

    MUCH MORE LIKELY is that IRAN has an advanced cyber warfare organization. We've already found their finger prints in many critical infrastructure facilities across the country. Rockets and nukes are mid-century concepts that have long since been regarded as "end-of-life on the planet" scenarios. However, cyber attacks are extremely effective, impacts are surgical and it is extremely difficult to have effective attribution.

    Population and resource security sends a powerful psychological message to domestic and foreign audiences. A national willing and able to absorb shocks dramatically alters any cost imposition strategy. Funding isn't an issue. The core issue is talent. We simply lack trained talent in sufficient quantity to address telecommunications and computer network security. Those who really understand the issue are hired into other enterprises or at exorbitant rates in the security industry. Educating “cyber security” folks in greater numbers will likely reduce cost and improve quality of their products. Government programs can help by incentivizing quality technical education.

    Our national leadership must to direct resources at the highest return on investment. Making cyber defense a social priority (like promoting diversity) is a sustained effort over time. America no longer has the will for a sustained campaign on the scale of Soviet Containment, because our political class is too weak and vacuous.

    It's too late to attain real cyber security. This is because attacks against mid-century operational technology that was designed to operate independent of the Internet is not secure and can't be secured without significant investment. Most OT facility operators have little or no background in OT cyber security and are having a very hard time gaining the necessary knowledge regarding the threat or how best to secure the OT operations. Threat analysts inside the beltway would invest in cyber security over offensive or defensive nuke... what is needed is a clear mandate that any new OT facilities shall incorporate security by design while at the same time begin to retro-fit the mid-century facilities. The enemy is already in our traffic control systems, water and sewer systems and electrical systems.

    I could really care less about IT systems. With all the billions of personal data stolen I have yet to meet anyone that was personally harmed.

    But take away clean water, sewer service and just-in-time delivery of beer and cigarettes to the local bodega and our dependent welfare class of city dwellers will be jumping off balconies in two weeks.

    My two cents.
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    Iran and N. Korea Nuke Threat and Cyber Security Discussion

    Throwing more taxpayer money at this issue will not solve it, contrary to popular belief.
    It will only move us closer to bankruptcy and further away from freedom.
    It’s a government operation, after all.
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