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    160 gr Leverevolutions. Shoot great out of my 1971 336 and my son's 336 circa 1971.
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    .... Ive taken deer with both - but tend to lean towards the 170 gr - a little more punch
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    My gun shoots 150's slightly better than 170's but I am going to try my 130 grn. fphc handload next season.

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    I have 20 boxes of 30-30 ammo in assorted bullet weights. I stack them in no particular order but I do try to keep the oldest on top. I've killed a lot of deer in my 60+ years of hunting. I never paid attention to what bullet weight I had on hand, just whatever I grabbed at the store. Every deer I killed sustained massive internal damage regardless of bullet weight...... I fail to see any concern about bullet weight at the distances the 30-30 is designed to kill. Shot placement is everything. JMHO
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    I see a lot of comments about the 170 having more punch / thump than the 150, but that would depend on how you measure punch / thump. The energy of a bullet is known as momentum and is calculated as mass times velocity.

    The 150g bullet is about 12% lighter than the 170g, but in 30-30 factory loads the 150g muzzle velocity is 9% faster than the 170. Because of velocity, ballistics charts show the 150g having more energy than the 170g from the muzzle out to about 60 - 65 yards.
    At the muzzle, the 150g bullet has about 9.6% more energy than the 170g at factory load velocities for each, but at 100 yards, the 170g has about 9.5% more energy than the 150g.

    The lighter bullet will also expand quicker and do a little more damage.

    There's another factor to consider; sectional density. The 170g wins here which means it will penetrate deeper, especially at ranges greater than 60 yards or so.

    So, the 150g might perform best for deer at close range (under 75 yds) unless the hunter wants to break down the shoulders to prevent the animal from running. Beyond 75 yards, the 170g has more energy & penetration, but the shooter has to know where it will hit because the lower velocity means greater drop.

    If hunting black bear or hogs and a shot might be over 60 yards, the 170g would be the most lethal.
    30-30 ballistics info from Remington here==> .30-30 Win.
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    The 2 with microgroove rifling in this house shoot 170 Rem best.

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    Based on Saturday's range trip, my XLR likes 170g better but, it's only one data point. Both CoreLokt and Flocci 170g grouped tight. The 150g opened up. Of course it could be the order of fire.
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    Both of my early 336's love 160 FTX's.
    My brother's Winchester 94 loves 170 grain ammo. Ironically it shoots Remington better than Winchester.
    One of my buddies has a 1980's 336 that likes 150's best.

    So go figure.

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    My 1966 RC loves the 160gr ftx over leverloution powder. Honest 1" groups, always amazed when I shoot it.
    Good combination of weight and speed.
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    I load 150gr for 336 & 94win. also buy 150s in factory loads. Shot a lot of deer with 150gr with no problems. I don't scope 30/30s so
    the accuracy probably wouldn't show up much. The 94 I only shoot 150gr. The 336, my main 30/30, I have shot everything from 1/2
    jacket 100gr plinkers to 180Rns. I have 130gr Speer HPs loaded with Win powder that are super accurate but have to be single loaded.
    I bought a bunch of Federal 125gr factory and save it for women & kids in deer season. None have made extremely long shots, all under a 100yds but the 125gr got their deer. Never had one go much over 50yds from hit. I've got 2 boxes of Hornady 90gr XTPs in .309" dia
    that is next thing I want to try. If they are accurate will make a good Varmit load. A HP pistol bullet should almost explode out of a 30/30.
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