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    Uberti 44-40 DOM 1995 SAA, new to me.

    Here is the new to me Uberti Regulator by American Arms, KS. in 44-40 with .250" diameter base pin. Came with matching box. Appears the importer was in Lakeville CT. And distributor was American Arms in Kansas. .425" bore and .430" groove. The forcing cone also measures .430" diameter. This model is prior to the base pin safety system.

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    This was the first half of the package deal, the other was an Uberti in 45colt that looked as if some one put it together from parts, or antiqued the frame and barrel. The DOM of this one is 1996. The revolver was going to need some work. On disassemble I found the hammer roller would not roll it was frozen on its axle due to corrosion. There was spots of surface rust on the frame under the one piece wooded grips and grip frame. The base pin on this 45Colt measures .255" diameter. There were corrosion marks on the barrel and cylinder. Here is a photo of that one.



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    David--

    You dirty dog you---Congrats--great looking pair. What Model is the 44-40, is that a 4 3/4" barrel or a 5 1/2" ? I've been looking for a 44-40 SA for over a year now and you just "pop" one out. I'm new to any SA guns--seems from what I can find unless you're really lucky you may just as well buy new. Can't find anything reasonable--seems like the CAS people fight over these guns when they come up on auctions. Can't wait to here how well they perform for you. I'm jealous.

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    Nice score David.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ia1727 View Post
    David--

    You dirty dog you---Congrats--great looking pair. What Model is the 44-40, is that a 4 3/4" barrel or a 5 1/2" ? I've been looking for a 44-40 SA for over a year now and you just "pop" one out. I'm new to any SA guns--seems from what I can find unless you're really lucky you may just as well buy new. Can't find anything reasonable--seems like the CAS people fight over these guns when they come up on auctions. Can't wait to here how well they perform for you. I'm jealous.

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    Steve, this 44-40 is made in 1995, called a Regulator and has a 4 3/4" barrel. Bottom of barrel is stamped American Arms KS. Top of barrel ahead of the frame in marked Regulator. Caliber marking on left side of barrel. It is prior to the base pin safety system. I have yet to shoot it, but will let you know how that goes and post targets.

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    Nice lookin' shootin' irons, Dave! I should post pics of the Uberti Cattleman .44-40 I picked up a few months ago. Finally got to shoot it a few weeks ago and was impressed with the groups at 25 yards with some home brew smokeless loads. Only problem is that the groups were about 2 inches left of POA. That sucks. Will see what it does with my standard 215 grain Accurate mould with black powder. I normally only shoot black in all my levers and single actions but wanted to try some smokeless as I have a ton of 4227 sitting around here.

    One of these days I will have to get together with you and make some smoke in the air. By the way, what's the name of your shop in Nordeast? Shoot me a PM with the details and address and phone number. Might have some work for you also.

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    Well have yet to shot the 44-40, but here is a target from 8 yards with a two hand hold standing using the Uberti black powder frame in 45colt. Keep in mine this revolver was supposed to be the dog of the package deal. I have taken a liking to this one. It even has a very fine notch in the rear sight groove that my other Uberti's do not have.

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    Nice shootin'--if the 44-40 can come close to that I'd say you got one heck of a deal.

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    Steve, since the conversation on the price of Uberti revolvers I have been paying more attention to new prices. The brass trigger guard models ($400.00) are less expensive than the blued ($500.00 - $600.00)or nickel ($700.00 - $800.00). The case color frames with blue trigger are more expensive($550.00 - $650.00). And there are some with a very deep blue. Then there are the matte finished ones also ($350.00 - $450.00). The 44-40 caliber ones seem to be the hardest to locate. There are two different black powder frames that I saw today alone. One had the cylinder base pin held in position with a thumb screw and the other with a slotted screw that when tight was flush with or slightly under the frame. The thumb screw style sets proud of the frame by 3/16". The one with the thumb screw was an antique finish in 45colt. The nickle ones with the white or black handle in 45colt new are about $750.00 I looked at one with adjustable rear sights and looked like a flat top. The top strap on the others seems to have two configurations, one the groove is the same depth and width down the whole top strap and one where at about 1/2" in front of the hammer it closes up to a fine narrow notch. I saw two different ejector rod handles today, the antiqued finished model had a target shaped ejector handle, the others were more of a crescent shape. So depending on the options and model, age and condition I can know see how some of these used SAA copies are selling in the $600.00 - $650.00 price range. Finding a new in box 44-40 in the configuration and barrel length the buyer wants at $400.00 is a good deal. These are just my opinions and thoughts after a day of shopping in My area.

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    Another note, the cylinders are not all the same, I have noted some cylinders have a bushing in the center of the cylinder just like the 1st generation Colts, others do not have the bushing and the cylinder and pin are like the 3rd generation Colts. I'm no gun smith nor expert on Colts or Uberti revolvers, these are just my observations. The more I look and dig the more variations I find, and they are not all cosmetic.

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    Wow---

    Thank you for all the time and effort you put into your descriptions. Based on what you have seen and what you own have you personally narrowed it down to the best of the best of Uberti's--in your opinion ?

    I have no idea where you're able to shop and see all the different configurations of SA's--around here I have a catalogue or the internet at my disposal--that's it. I'm really leaning towards a Patron from Longhunter or a SmokeWagon from John Taylor Co.. From what I've been able to gather on the web they could very well be the same gun with different options performed by the individual Co.'s after they receive them. This can get a little confusing when all I have to compare is what I see on the web sites. I'll keep looking--I am convinced that I do want a 4 3/4" 44-40 first--after that--we'll see. Thanks again for your help.

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