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    I was there. Many Black People, Hispanics, Indians, and other ethnics, all armed, were at this rally. About 1 in 3 or 4 was visibly armed. What the feeds don't show
    you are the side streets backed up, full,l beyond the barriers, 2 to 3 blocks deep. Over 27,000 attended. Somebody was driving a pickup truck with a huge sign in the back, JEFFREY EPSTEIN DIDN"T KILL HIMSELF. It was 22 degrees with a stiff breeze, in the morning, I'm from Florida, on blood thinners, so I froze my cluster.

    The cops were taking a very hands off approach, most had this "I so need six hours of NOT THIS." look in their eyes. Many attendees were carrying AR-15s. A lot of OC sidearms, so I imagine CC made that # at least X2. We sang the National Anthem, chanted "U.S.A!" a bunch of times. Most folks were friendly enough, the general atmosphere was sort of like a Sunday BBQ, or a Church Picnic. Even with ( maybe because of) all those firearms about, I, an unarmed tourist, from out of state, felt perfectly safe.

    Unlike Governor Northam, these Virginians chief elected representative. He had riot fencing and barriers, checkpoints, armed guards, and he hid from the people he represented, the whole day. I'm not going to state that he is a sniveling, cowardly little dog terd, just that by the looks of how he turned the capitol complex into a Concentration Camp, he obviously did not feel safe, probably due to the knowledge of the wrongness of what he is doing to his Citizens, at the behest of his master.

    Anyway, while my declining health issues forced me to depart early, I was there.

    Anybody else from here attend ?
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    I just heard on the Glenn Beck Radio program that the State of West Virginia has INVITED the Counties in Virginia that are now Sanctuary 2nd Amendment Counties to JOIN the State of West Virginia! Unlike creating a new state, they don't need Richmond's or Washington. DC's approval!

    What a GREAT way to flip a collective BIRD to the Democrat-Marxists in a State Government.

    The Marxists in Richmond should be HUNG. Too bad that would be considered uncivilized in today's World.

    Awe, for the good old days!

    https://dailysounder.com/west-virgin...ution-invites/

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    It wasn't a blanket invitation to multiple Virginia counties. It was a specific invitation to Frederick County, VA.

    Frederick County isn't interested. Just as well because the majority of population in Frederick County is in and around the City of Winchester, which is a liberal college town which voted down a 2A sanctary ordinance in the city, which means that the 2A sanctuary ordinance passed by the county is invalid within the city limits.

    No thank you, I don't want all those transplanted flatlanders from Arlington and Fairfax becoming West Virginians and bringing their liberal politics with them.

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    I went. Nice crowd!!
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    That's not the way the measure introduced in West Virginia's House was presented on Glenn Beck. I do believe it is an issue that the West Virginia Voters must approve. The bottom line is, there are alternatives to bending over and allowing Progressives that get elected to State Offices and try to remove our Constitutional Rights.

    The enemy is not native Virginians, its primarily the voters in Northern Virginia that had enough votes to change the State Government to control by Progressives. I don't associate with the local University or their students either, but we need to sort the people out.

    We can no longer turn the other cheek. If we don't fight these people, we will lose what's left of our country.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Outpost75 View Post
    It wasn't a blanket invitation to multiple Virginia counties. It was a specific invitation to Frederick County, VA.
    That's not what it said in the link.

    Did you click on it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by miket156 View Post
    I just heard on the Glenn Beck Radio program that the State of West Virginia has INVITED the Counties in Virginia that are now Sanctuary 2nd Amendment Counties to JOIN the State of West Virginia! Unlike creating a new state, they don't need Richmond's or Washington. DC's approval!

    What a GREAT way to flip a collective BIRD to the Democrat-Marxists in a State Government.

    https://dailysounder.com/west-virgin...ution-invites/

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    rumble in Richmond

    I just saw a tweet from Handsy Joe Biden sharing a tweet from "March For Our Lives". It shows a bunch of young people crammed into an office in the Richmond Capital Building the night before the Lobby Day Rally.

    A couple of questions come to mind:

    1. Since when was it policy to provide lodging on the Capital Grounds for special interest groups. I only ask because this room is clearly an office as there is an American and Virginia Flag in the corner and the desk has been pushed in the corner. Sounds like a flagrant abuse of tax payer resources to me. Was a similar offer made to pro gun groups for free of charge lodging on the Capital Grounds?

    2. Will the left ever learn that generally associating conservative actions and unjustly classifying them all as racist or White Supremist activities will only result in us sticking our finger in your eye and re-electing Donald Trump? Also, did you just fail to recognize the efforts of the many minorities of the crowd, simply because they are minorities and don't fit your narrative? Shame, on you... you Social Justice Warriors.

    3. Threats of violence? The only true threats of violence were made by the Dems when they threatened to sic the national guard on their conservative constituents.

    I think I'm going to send March For Our Lives an 18 pack of toilet paper. It may come in use, because it's obvious that they're full of it.
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    As I mentioned earlier--I think the Looney Liberal politicians are going to go for broke because they know they have to get very aggressive at achieving their attack on your 1st A and 2nd A rights because they are at the end of their rope. No accomplishments or work done for the working Taxpaying Citizens and the delusion that they have great power to suppress your rights in unison have clouded rational behavior on their part. Lets face it folks ----they have nothing without being able to milk the honest taxpaying citizen because where will the funds come from to support their free giveaways ? They have misappropriated your tax dollars to buy their votes and fund their bankruptcy 101 policies.
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    I found this article I had saved from about 2014 , worth reading again


    If They Come for Your Guns, Do You Have a Responsibility to Fight?
    by Dean Garrison

    I feel a tremendous responsibility to write this article though I am a little apprehensive. Thinking about the possibility of rising up against our own government is a frightening thing for many of us. I am not Johnny Rambo and I will be the first to admit that I do not want to die. The reason I feel compelled to write this, however, is simply because I don’t think the average American is equipped with the facts. I feel that a lot of American citizens feel like they have no choice but to surrender their guns if the government comes for them. I blame traditional media sources for this mass brainwash and I carry the responsibility of all small independent bloggers to tell the truth. So my focus today is to lay out your constitutional rights as an American, and let you decide what to do with those rights.

    About a month ago I let the “democracy” word slip in a discussion with a fellow blogger. I know better. Americans have been conditioned to use this term. It’s
    not an accurate term and it never has been a correct term to describe our form of government. The truth is that the United States of America is a
    constitutional republic. This is similar to a democracy because our representatives are selected by democratic elections, but ultimately our representatives are required to work within the framework of our constitution. In other words, even if 90% of Americans want something that goes against our founding principles, they have no right to call for a violation of constitutional rights.

    If you are religious you might choose to think of it this way… Say that members of your congregation decide that mass fornication is a good thing. Do they have the right to change the teachings of your God? The truth is the truth. It doesn’t matter how many people try to stray from it. Did I just compare our
    founders to God? In a way I did, but please note that I am not trying to insult anyone. For the purpose of the American Government our constitution and founders who wrote it are much like God is to believers. It is the law. It is indisputable.

    Our founders did not want a “democracy” for they feared a true democracy was just as dangerous as a monarchy. The founders were highly educated people who were experienced in defending themselves against tyranny. They understood that the constitution could protect the people by limiting the power of anyone to work outside of it much better than a pure system of popularity. A system of checks and balances was set up to help limit corruption of government and also the potential for an “immoral majority” developing within the American People. We have forgotten in this country that we are ultimately ruled by a constitution.

    Why is a democracy potentially just as dangerous as a monarchy? Let’s look at something that Benjamin Franklin said because it answers that question more fully and succinctly than I can.

    Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. -Benjamin Franklin

    Even 230+ years ago our founders were perceptive enough to realize that democracy was a dangerous form of government. How so? Because the citizens of a country can become just as corrupt as any government. We have seen evidence of this throughout history. Ask Native Americans and African-Americans if this population can become corrupt.

    I think in 2012 we are seeing evidence of what Franklin was trying to tell us. Just because a majority of people may support certain ideas it does not mean
    that those ideas are just. In simple terms, just because most Americans love our president and voted for him, it does not mean that he has the power to go
    against our constitutional rights.

    Next I’d like to review the text of the second amendment. It is very clear. This is the law of this land. So when Senator Feinstein or President Obama talk about taking your guns, you need to think about something. Are they honoring their sworn oath to uphold the constitution?

    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. This is a pretty clear statement. The fact is that it took 232 years for the Supreme Court to even rule on this amendment because it has never been successfully challenged. In 2008 a case of Columbia v. Heller the Supreme Court ruled that a handgun ban in Washington D.C. was unconstitutional. One also has to take this into consideration. The Supreme Court supports your right to own guns. If you want to research this decision further you can start here. For those who try to debate the spirit of the 2nd amendment, they are truly no different from people who will try to take Biblical quotes out of context to try to support their immoral decisions. The founders were very clear on the intent of the 2nd amendment. Let me share a few quick quotes here:

    The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government. -Thomas
    Jefferson

    Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty teeth and keystone under independence … From the hour the Pilgrims landed, to the present day, events, occurrences, and tendencies prove that to insure peace, security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are
    equally indispensable . . . the very atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference – they deserve a place of honor with all that is good. -George Washington

    The Constitution shall never be construed….to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms. - Samuel Adams

    I could find hundreds of quotes like these. This country was built on the right to bear arms.It was built on the rights of an individual to bear arms, regardless of what his government or neighbor happened to think. This is crystal clear. Ironically the people who voice their opinions against this right have their free speech protected by your guns.Without guns in this country, all other amendments become null and void, simply because “We the People” will lose ourpower of enforcement.

    We need to keep this in mind as our “representatives” try to push gun bans. I don’t care if 99% of people are in support of gun bans (which is far from the
    case), it is a violation of our constitutional rights, plain and simple.

    A constitutional republic protects the rights of the individual even when their ideas are very much in the minority. If I were the only person in America who
    believed in the 2nd amendment, I would still be within my rights to call upon it. You would all think I was insane and possibly celebrate if I was gunned down, but in the end I would be the only true American among us.

    Our framers were very clear on this. If my government comes to take my guns, they are violating one of my constitutional rights that is covered by the 2nd amendment.

    It is not my right, at that point, but my responsibility to respond in the name of liberty.What I am telling you is something that many are trying to soft sell, and many others have tried to avoid putting into print, but I am going to say it. The time for speaking in code is over.

    If they come for our guns then it is our constitutional right to put them six feet under.You have the right to kill any representative of this government who tries to tread on your liberty. I am thinking about self-defense and not talking about inciting a revolution. Re-read Jefferson ’s quote. He talks about a “last resort.” I am not trying to start a Revolt, I am talking about self-defense. If the day for Revolution comes, when no peaceful options exist, we may have to talk about that as well. None of us wants to think about that, but please understand that a majority can not take away your rights as an American citizen. Only you can choose to give up your rights.

    Congress could pass gun ban legislation by a 90%+ margin and it just would not matter. I think some people are very unclear on this. This is the reason we have a Supreme Court, and though I do not doubt that the Supreme Court can also become corrupt, in 2008 they got it right. They supported the Constitution. It does not matter what the majority supports because America is not a
    democracy. A constitutional republic protects the rights of every single citizen, no matter what their “elected servants” say. A majority in America only matters when the constitution is not in play.

    I just wrote what every believer in the Constitution wants to say, and what every constitutional blogger needs to write. The truth of the matter is that this type of speech is viewed as dangerous and radical or subversive, and it could gain me a world of trouble that I do not want. It is also the truth. To make myself clear I will tell you again. If they come for your guns it is your right to use those guns against them and to kill them. You are protected by our Constitution.

    Most of the articles I am reading on the subject are trying to give you clues without just coming out and saying it. I understand that because certain things
    in this country will get you on a list that you don’t want to be on. I may well be on that list. This blog is small and growing so I may not be there yet, but I have dreams. I also have my own list of subversives and anyone who attempts to deny my constitutional rights is on that list.

    I am not the “subversive” here, it is the political representatives who are threatening to take away my inalienable rights. If they come to take my guns and I leave a few of them wounded or dead, and I somehow survive, I have zero doubt that I will spend a long time in prison and may face an execution. But I would much rather be a political prisoner than a slave.

    If I go down fighting then I was not fighting to harm these human beings. I was simply defending my liberty and yours. It is self-defense and it is what our
    country was built on. We won our freedom in self-defense. We would not be ruled by a tyrannical government in the 1770's and we will not be ruled in 2012 by a tyrannical government. There is no difference.

    This is a case of right and wrong. As of now the 2nd amendment stands. It has never been repealed. If Feinstein or Barack have a problem with the constitution then they should be removed from office. They are not defending the Constitution which they have sworn an oath to protect. It is treasonous to say the least. They would likely say the same about me, but I have the Constitution, the founders, and the supreme court on my side. They only have their inflated egos.

    I am not writing this to incite people. I am writing this in hopes that somehow I can make a tiny difference. I have no idea how many of my neighbors have the will to defend their constitutional rights. 2%? 20%? I am afraid that 20% is a high number, unfortunately. When push comes to shove many people may give up and submit to being ruled. I believe that our government is banking on this.

    I would hope that our officials come to realize that, regardless of our numbers, we still exist because they are calling Patriotic Americans to action. They are
    making us decide if we want to die free or submit to their rule. I can not tell you where you should stand on that. I do know that it may make the difference
    between living a life of freedom or slavery. You must start thinking about this because I believe that the day is coming soon and I personally believe it has already been planned. Not all conspiracy theories are hogwash. They may throw down the gauntlet soon and my suggestion is that you prepare yourself to react.

    I mean no disrespect to our elected officials but they need to understand that “We the People” will not be disarmed. If they proceed then it is they that are
    provoking us and we will act accordingly. We are within our rights to do so.

    For those who are in support of taking the guns, you need to ask yourself a very important question, and I am not just talking about the politicians, because if
    you support them, you have chosen your side.

    Are you willing to die to take my guns?
    WHEN THE PEOPLE FEAR THE GOVERNMENT THERE IS TYRANNY, WHEN THE GOVERNMENT FEARS THE PEOPLE , THERE IS LIBERTY......... Thomas Jefferson

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