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    DIProducts Picatinny Rail and Marlin 795

    I recently purchased a new Marlin 795 (the first new rifle I have ever purchased) and a DIP picatinny rail. From what have read on this forum I was not surprised to find the rail would not fit. I could not even get it started. Close inspection of the DOVETAIL revealed that it was not machined correctly. The left side was higher than the right side. I contacted Marlin customer service and they paid to have the rifle shipped to a contracted repair facility. Today I received the rifle back from the repair facility and the dovetail has been made to look like it has been repaired. I actually think they just filed down the left side of the dovetail, painted it, and called it good without actually measuring it. I still cannot get the picatinny rail to even start to go on.

    Ok, so rather than screw around with Marlin again, what have others done to get the rail mounted on the rifle? I don't know where, but somewhere I found a picture of one the owner had taken a hammer and beat it into submission. The back end of the rail was ugly. I do not want to do that. Do you simply file off the edge of the dovetail? I am not a machinist, but I feel I could do this. Do you file the DIP rail? That looks like it would be a little harder to do.

    I am trying to stay away from air rifle mounts with three or four set screws on one side used to clamp the dovetail. They look like they cause the scope to sit up high and I prefer the scope to sit as low as possible.

    Thank you for your inputs.

    Brickrider

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    I can't help with the rail beyond suggesting filing/hammering, etc.

    But can I ask what you want to scope it with? I've found the one piece mounts to be perfect for 40mm.

    I recently wanted to mount a 32mm and used these guys - they're MASSIVE for individual rings. and each one is held on by a pair of bolts.

    Amazon.com : Hawke Match 1 Rings, Low, 3/8 to 11mm Dovetails : Sporting Optic Mounts : Sports & Outdoors
    1894 .32-20 Octagon 30" - 1907-ish (Team 1894 #332)
    1990 336C in 30-30
    Model 55 "The Original Goose Gun" 12GA (Team Shotgun #9)
    795, 7000, Model 60. 989 M2 , 49DL, 60 SB, etc., etc. - 22LR (Team 60 #171)
    Model 25MN 22 WMR (Team 22 Magnum #085)
    39A Golden '64 22LR (Team 39 #384)
    Model 81 and 80DL 22LR (Team Bolt Action Rimfire #48 )
    Model 88 and 89C 22LR
    Model A1 "Smokeless Greased" 22LR
    Model 57 (22LR) and 57M (22 WMR) Levermatics
    ... and the rest

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    khigh,

    Thank you for your reply. The scope I want to use has a 32mm objective lens, too. Do these rings stay in place or do they tend to loosen up and move around? That is one reason I am trying to use the DIP rail, the set screws lock it in place.

    Respectfully,
    Brickrider

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    These have to bolts each AND set screws. They're basically a two piece version of a one piece mount more than they have in common with conventional rings. You can even see the set screws in the picture.

    On my 7000 they barely leave room for the bikini cover
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    1894 .32-20 Octagon 30" - 1907-ish (Team 1894 #332)
    1990 336C in 30-30
    Model 55 "The Original Goose Gun" 12GA (Team Shotgun #9)
    795, 7000, Model 60. 989 M2 , 49DL, 60 SB, etc., etc. - 22LR (Team 60 #171)
    Model 25MN 22 WMR (Team 22 Magnum #085)
    39A Golden '64 22LR (Team 39 #384)
    Model 81 and 80DL 22LR (Team Bolt Action Rimfire #48 )
    Model 88 and 89C 22LR
    Model A1 "Smokeless Greased" 22LR
    Model 57 (22LR) and 57M (22 WMR) Levermatics
    ... and the rest

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    Hi, i had a little trouble mounting mine on my model 60, but nowhere near as much trouble as some people have had.

    luckily my firearm had a nice, and accurate dovetail, so it started out good... BUT there are two distinct different rails, and you gotta double check you got the right one, and inside the rails i received, there was a distinct embossing on the inside telling you the correct installation orientation. don't overlook that, i did on the first one, and it gave me fits!

    Once i figured it out, it went pretty smooth from there with only minor filing on the inside of the picatinny to get a nice PRESS fit..
    I stress PRESS fit, because in my opinion, if you have to beat the daylights out of something to the point that you mangle it, youre doing it dead wrong! ( yep' i saw that same post you saw where the guy did that).

    I started installation from the rear and pushed it forward til it started to bind, slid it off, filed a bit, re-fit, I measured, and Mic'ed things as i went...once i got it to within a half inch of done, I wet the area down with a 50/50 mix of water, and dish soap to lubricate, then I LIGHTLY tapped it to a press fit with a brass hammer and she was on.. I dont really advocate filing on the firearm for mounting an accessory part personally, I like to "work the accessory" so not to do permanent mods to the gun, its easy to file the picatinny as its just aluminum, little bit at a time, and patience and it will be on in no time..

    I also like to ink down the area inside the picatinny with a blue sharpie every few passes so i can get a good visual of where things are getting tight, and i can see where i am filing.. once youre close, and ready to do final seating, you can just rinse off the sharpie with acetone, or fingernail polish remover...

    After i realized my mistake(s) on the first one, the second one was on and done in about 20-30 minutes.... good luck!

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    Team 60 #186
    Team 30-30 #987
    Team Semi-Auto #34
    Team 45/70 #1801
    Team Wheel Guns #100

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    Thank you. I have added them to my shopping cart on Amazon.

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    Flatsneck,

    My problem is I can't get the rail to even start onto the dovetail. If I could get it to start I would have a starting point, so to speak. I guess that is a good thing because I would be sorely tempted to take a BFH (Big Freaking Hammer) to it.

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    Flatsneck,

    I posted my reply before I completed typing.

    I am temped to remove the iron sight and start from that end of the receiver. I have contacted Marlin CS to see if they want to step up and just replace the rifle. I am not holding out much hope. I have not even fired this rifle and I am already having problems with it. I really hope it shoots well when I finally take it to the range.

    Respectfully

    Brickrider

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    795's are generally very accurate, and generally very good little plinkers, re-reading your first post, i see that your dovetail is wonky so you might just be in for a fight...

    first thing if it was me, I would re verify that its the right model rail, then but a pair of digital calipers to the rail, and dovetail to see where your measurements are and assess how much metal has to be removed from the rail, and figure out if its within your skill-set, and patience level to "file to fit"..

    Replacement is always an option, especially if the dovetail is severely out of spec, but thats Remington's issue.

    I also agree with the above post for the Dovetail scope rings posted above earlier, they are solid, and will work like a charm, and you'll not have one problem with them at all... the only concern i could see is if your factory dovetail is really wonky, anything you mount on it could amplify any misalignment...sadly, no matter which way you go, i think youre in a "trial and error" situation...

    Shoot her with Iron sights, and make sure everything is accurate with the rifle as it sits, then go from there if it were me..

    good luck.
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    Team 60 #186
    Team 30-30 #987
    Team Semi-Auto #34
    Team 45/70 #1801
    Team Wheel Guns #100

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    Quote Originally Posted by flatsneck View Post
    Shoot her with Iron sights, and make sure everything is accurate with the rifle as it sits, then go from there if it were me..

    good luck.
    I agree with this. My experiences with at least later model 795s out of the box is they tend to be picky about, ammo, action lube, and screw tension and like to be broken in before becoming quite reliable. I'd hit the range with say 5 different boxes of ammo and run it through before trying to zero a scope.
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    1894 .32-20 Octagon 30" - 1907-ish (Team 1894 #332)
    1990 336C in 30-30
    Model 55 "The Original Goose Gun" 12GA (Team Shotgun #9)
    795, 7000, Model 60. 989 M2 , 49DL, 60 SB, etc., etc. - 22LR (Team 60 #171)
    Model 25MN 22 WMR (Team 22 Magnum #085)
    39A Golden '64 22LR (Team 39 #384)
    Model 81 and 80DL 22LR (Team Bolt Action Rimfire #48 )
    Model 88 and 89C 22LR
    Model A1 "Smokeless Greased" 22LR
    Model 57 (22LR) and 57M (22 WMR) Levermatics
    ... and the rest


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