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    Quote Originally Posted by Bearcat 74 View Post
    I may be off base here but are you using the same primers for 45-70, 444 and 44 mag? The 45-70 and 444 would use large rifle primers, the 44 would use large pistol primers.

    Seat all primers to the bottom, if they aren’t solid they won’t ignite as well.


    I agree above with checking firing pin protrusion.
    Yes--Lrg Rifle primers have slightly higher cups than Lrg Pistol primers. If you don't seat them to the bottom the primer anvil is not supported and can cause misfires. If you need a more "Sensitive" primer bench rest primers are a little more sensitive so a light hammer spring can ignite them.
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    The fact that they will fire after the second or third try points to the most common source of this problem -- insufficient primer seating depth.

    Now you're going to say, "I am an experienced reloader, and that's NOT the problem." To which I'll say, "They all say that..." How do I know? I've said it myself -- only to find out I was wrong.
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    Yep--try pistol primers first before doing anything else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ret_Eng View Post
    Yep--try pistol primers first before doing anything else.

    And be sure they’re seated firm. My neighbor seats his primers flush with the case head instead of letting it bottom out in the pocket.


    seat them solid
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    Seat your primers firmly. My rule is that primers are seated below the case head a few thousandths of an inch. You can feel a slight indent when you run you finger over the case head. As others have said the primer anvil needs to be firmly pressing against the priming compound. Otherwise you firing pin strike has to drive the primer forward before it can ignite the compound - which may not ignite because of the cushioning.

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    First thing I'd do is to seat the primers off press .... firmly.

    just my guess


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    I have to agree that the symptoms point to primers, not fully seated or something related. Reloads - perhaps ashy pockets?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Headhog View Post
    Seat your primers firmly. My rule is that primers are seated below the case head a few thousandths of an inch. You can feel a slight indent when you run you finger over the case head. As others have said the primer anvil needs to be firmly pressing against the priming compound. Otherwise you firing pin strike has to drive the primer forward before it can ignite the compound - which may not ignite because of the cushioning.
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    Let us know the outcome. I'm interested in what the problem was.
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    negative ghost rider (Pisgah) lol. Just experienced enough not to blow a finger off. I am open to all suggestions even the off chance the issue is me..

    I guess I will get some pistol primers and make sure they are seated firm and bottomed out. I prime with a hand primer. I will also try and see if I can find somebody that has a rifle to shoot some of these reloads in. That should eliminate the rifle completely if the problems persist.

    maybe I will have an answer by next week thanks for the help
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