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    It looks like the die on the left is for a 32 Winchester Special . That is not the same as a 32-40. The dies must have been misplaced in the box. I would contact either the dealer that you bought them from or Lee.

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    The expander plug I mentioned should be in the sizing die. It would be keeping the decapping pin in place, as well. When the case is pushed into the die, the decapping pin knocks out the old primer and the sizer squeezes the neck down to undersize. When you pull the case out of the die the expander plug pushes the neck out to size.

    The 32 Win SPl seating die will work with the 32-40, but the 32 Win Spl sizer die is all wrong. See if Lee will fix that for ya and get you a Lee Factory Crimp die. You may not find one for the 32=40, but the 32 Win SPl should work as they are the same nominal length and diamter. Try before you buy. Shoot me a pm with you address. I'll be back home in a week and will loan you mine. They can be pricey, though not always.
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    Does the die on the left say 32 Win SPL? If it does, its the wrong die for your rifle.
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    Hi all,

    How does this .32 caliber bullet look (for comparison, a .308 inch 147grain FMJ-BT)? Does it look like the correct type of bullet for use in the .32-40?

    IMG-1297.JPG

    Thanks,

    Alan

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    Give Lee a call on that one! .32 Win should be for the .32 Special!

    Well, I just checked my dies and both my Lee .32-40 AND .32 Special bullet seat dies say .32 Win. B4!!??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Land Cruiser View Post
    Hi all,

    I am starting reloading for an old M1893 Marlin .32-40. I have acquired some old production (yellow box) Winchester cases (new, unfired) and some once fired Winchester "John Wayne" nickel plated cases. The reloading manual said case overall length is 2.13 inches ith cartridge max overall length of 2.500 inches. I am using some Speer .321 diameter 170 grain softpoint jacketed bullets.

    My problem is when the bullet is seated to the crimp line the overall length of the cartridge is way out of spec (like 2.68 inches!) When I try to seat the bullet deeper the case starts to
    bulge before the overall length is within spec. In this photo you can see the bulge in the casing. IMG-1268.JPGIMG-1255.JPG

    Any thoughts on what the problem is here? Incorrect bullet? Case specifications are wrong?

    Thank you in advance for any help!

    Alan

    Alan,

    I agree with others. You should try cast bullets. Plain Base for traditional loads and possibly Gas Check if you want/need more velocity.

    The nose lenght on jacketed bullets is too long if your cases have the traditional ring that is intended to limit bullet seating depth.

    The only other option would be to make your own cases from 38-55 brass. You can pick up some starline brass and use your 32-40 full lenght sizer die to form the 32-40. Your formed case will not have the bullet depth seating ring stop possibly allowing you to seat a little deeper.

    If you go the option of forming your own, get the shorter 38-55 case version. It will stretch and still need triming to the correct lenght. Use a quality lube like Imperial wax and only size about 1/8 - 1/4" at a time turning your die down two turn each cycle until fully sized.

    Good luck.
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    Thanks everyone for the comments and feedback on this! Suggestions for a source for cast bullets that are correct for this cartridge?

    I see these bullets on Gunbroker: https://www.gunbroker.com/item/808124284


    Again, thank you.
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    I've been using cast boollets from Rim Rock Bullets, in lots of calibers. They seem to work just fine! https://rimrockbullets.com/xcart/?target=main

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    Hi all,

    The nice folks at Lee Precision sent me a different bullet seater which allows using these .32 Special bullets and getting the correct OAL. I have also ordered some cast lead 165 grain bullets from Montana Bullet Works which should arrive this week.

    Land Cruiser


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