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    Rifle: Marlin 1895GS 18.5" barrel
    Optics: Luepold Scout scope / Ghost Rings
    Bullet: Oregon Trail 350gr Flat nose cast
    Powder: 35.0gr IMR-4198
    Primer: CCI-250
    Case: Rem
    This load produced 1500fps at the muzzle, 1.5" groups at 100yds.

    Rifle: Marlin 1895GS 18.5" barrel
    Optics: Luepold Scout scope / Ghost Rings
    Bullet: Hornady 350gr JFP
    Powder: 49.0gr H-4198
    Primer: CCI-200
    Case: Rem Nickle
    I am getting right at 1950fps at the muzzle and 1.25" groups at 100yds.

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    My most accurate Cast bullet loads

    405 gr Oregon Trail Laser-cast (.459")
    28 gr SR 4759 (Lyman Manual)
    WLR
    Starline Brass Trimmed 2.095"
    OAL 2.530"
    Roll Crimp =5/16 turn after contact
    Chronographs 1489 Avg in 1895 GS
    Very Clean burning load too.


    430 gr TRUESHOT GC bullet (.459")
    36 gr IMR 4198 (Oregon Trail Data supplied with bullets, lower end of the range)
    WLR
    Starline Brass 2.095"
    OAL= 2.520"
    Roll Crimp 5/16 turn after contact
    Chronographs 1492 avg in my 1895 GS
    1" c-c groups at 100 yards


    405gr Laser Cast Bullet
    11 gr Hercules Red Dot (GMDR.com)
    WLR
    W-W cases
    Chronographs 1030 (SD of 9)
    Very accurate in my 22" Marlin 1895, no so good in my GG
    Same Load with a 300 gr cast bullet is pretty good too but I haven't chronographed it.


    Jacketed Bullets

    Hornady 350 gr JFP
    IMR 4198 36 gr (Speer Manual)
    WLR
    W-W brass
    Chronographs in the 1575 range (only shot one through)
    VERY Accurate in my 1895 (22") and nearly so in my 1895GS

    This bullet also shot well over AA5744 but left a lot a powder Zombies in the bore, case and chamber.

    Other Stuff tried:
    VARGET: Shows promise
    2400: Poor so far, dirty
    Aardvark Bullets. Excellent accuracy, didn't feed well


    LEVEREVOLUTION Factory Ammo
    1816 fps out of my 1895 GS
    Average Accuracy
    Brass is much shorter than NON LE 45-70 brass.
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    SR-4759

    Does anyone have 45-70 load data for 300gr cast / jacketed & 405gr bullets using SR-4759? thanks for your help!

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    Wet Dog posted a 405gr load right above your post, the Lyman manuals, both the 48th and the Cast Bullet, have data for SR4759, I suggest you pick up the 48th, it's a must have of manuals IMO. It has SR4759 trapdoor data for all the bullets you mention, and some in 1895 data too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quickdtoo
    Wet Dog posted a 405gr load right above your post, the Lyman manuals, both the 48th and the Cast Bullet, have data for SR4759, I suggest you pick up the 48th, it's a must have of manuals IMO. It has SR4759 trapdoor data for all the bullets you mention, and some in 1895 data too. :wink:

    Tim

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    Thanks for the info I have a Lyman from 1970 & the 47th edition but I'll check out the 48th edition also.I saw the 405 load data but wanted some for 300gr Nos PT & Rem.I have Speer,Nosler,Hornaday,Hodgdon,Lyman,NRA,etc,reload ing books I guess it's time to buy more.Info from Lyman 49th Edition has data for SR 4759 with cast bullets but none with jacketed. I contacted the owner of Loadbooks USA and bought The Complete Reloading Manual for the 45-70 Gov't.

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    The 300gr NP SR4759 data is 24gr start, 27gr max @1421fps, Rem 9½, Rem brass, 2.500" COL. They only list the 405gr Rem bullet with other powders, but do have 4759 for 405gr cast listed in both 1873 and 1895 data.

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    Thanks a lot for the load data I've been purchasing bullets from Noslers www.shootersproshop.com go to the side bar and click on bullets many available in 6mm,7mm,375,416, 308,etc. and other calibers. They must make Rem bullets as they've been selling them in 300gr HP & 405 gr FP plus 300gr Nos protected point partitions.Told my hunting buddies in PA about the shooters pro shop so they've been buying bullets to reload for all of their different caliber rifles.

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    I've been buying their 2nds for over two years now, their inventory is considerably depleted in part just due to me :lol: , much of what they had listed are no longer available. :cry: Midsouth beats their factory first prices tho.

    You missed out on the best buy anywhere at Cabelas on the 300gr NP, they were selling for $32 or so when everyone else was $40. I think you'll find the Rem 300 and 405 at Cabelas are still less than anywhere else.

    Tim

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    midway had them cheaper after I bought my rem 458 bullets.I just went out to my reloading room in my garage & located everal of my old reloading pamphlets:Reloaders Guide for Hercules Smokeless Powder with 45-70 listings for 1873 Springfield & 1886 Winchester using blue dot,2400 and reloader 7;Winchester Ball Powder Loading Data 1973,405gr sp bullet ,630 powder 20.5gr at 1310fps & 18000 c.u.p.; Hodgdon's Reloading Data Manual #19 2nd edition maybe 1964:Powder 1# can $2.50;20# keg of H110 $45,50# keg $90 & a 100# keg $165 same prices for BL-C Lot2, H335,H375,H380,H450.4895 100# keg $190;H570 & Sperhical H870 100# keg $65,4831 100# keg $65 & 5010(M.G.) 100# keg $65 slowest powder.Oct 1974 Am Rifleman Marlin 1895 ad suggested retail $185.century arms ad m91 argentine mauser,7.65 mm good condition $64.95.

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    Midway sometimes has good sale prices, but if check their shipping, they usually take you to the cleaners on bulk bullets unless they have their bulk bullet sales going. Right now they want $103 and $23 shipping for 500 of the 405gr Rems that are out of stock again :roll: , Cabelas wants $95 for the bullets and $11 to ship, it pays to look around. My last order for 500 of the 405gr at Cabelas was $71 shipped compared to $82 at Midway, it's been a couple yrs tho, I think, time flies.

    I don't think it's wise to use that old data with current powders, but that's just me, course if you have old powder to use up, that old data might come in handy.

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