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    Berry's plated bullet

    Has anyone had good luck with Berry's 30 caliber plated bullets? What velocity? I shot some 100 gr .32 cal last fall in my .32-20 Marlin and they worked fairly decent...better than lead bullets in my situation. that was in the 1200+ fps range. I may try some for chickens and pigs in the Winchester .30-30

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    I shoot them in my 30-30. I keep the velocity within their specs. Unique powder. Can't remember for sure, thinking 11 grains. They are more accurate than I. Don't know if I'd depend on it for hogs.

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    I use Berry's plated bullets in handgun calibers (9mm, 357 Mag, 44 Mag, 45 Colt) and have had good luck with them. For some reason, I have never thought to try them for rifle cartridge reloading (other than pistol caliber rifles).
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    Like North Idaho have used them for handgun and never had a problem with them. I have never used them for rifle loads either though.
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    My 1894's, both of them, hated the .430" 240 grain Berry's plated. Scattered them like buckshot. They're probably too small for the Marlin .431"-.432" groove diameter. I loaded them over 8.8 grains of Unique thinking they'd be ok. Nope. At the 135 yard gong, they were 4 feet off in random directions. Oh,well. You've got to try everything once.
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    i have used the 150gr 30-30 plated bullets in a marlin 336 cb in 30-30. one load i like is 17.5 of 5744 and another is 23gr of varget. both loads are within berry fps for thier 30-30 plated bullet. both loads work well on chickens and pigs. hits them like a hammer. i have not used them much on the turkeys to tell if they will work. both loads shoot soft and group well out to 150 meters. my load data is down stairs and i think the 5744 is runing somewhere around 1,700 fps or under. i have also used the 125gr and 158gr 357 mag plated bullet in pc matches in a marlin 1894 cb. i would still be using them except the zero bullet is cheaper and is a fmj bullet, not plated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAndy View Post
    Has anyone had good luck with Berry's 30 caliber plated bullets? What velocity? I shot some 100 gr .32 cal last fall in my .32-20 Marlin and they worked fairly decent...better than lead bullets in my situation. that was in the 1200+ fps range. I may try some for chickens and pigs in the Winchester .30-30

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    PAndy,

    I started with the 250 qty lots from Midway then moved to 1,000 qty purchases. You can say, I like them.

    The 30 cal 150 gr bullet is listed for velocities up to 1,900 fps. I have shot up to 1,800 fps in a 30 WCF using H-4198 with no issues. Also, for plinking, the 30 carbine bullets seems to work well out to 100 yards at the same velocity range and powder. My rifles all have Ballard rifling.

    Additionally, all of the pistol bullets have a FPS recommendation that is lower. I assume they are recommendations for pistol use. I have both the 125 and 158 gr 357 hollow point target bullets moving at 1,700 fps using 2400 with not accuracy or copper deposit issues in a rifle.

    The trick is treating them like cast bullets as you load. Use a neck expander die with slight bell then only taper crimp in place.
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    Thanks for the input. I am glad to hear there is potential...honestly they don't have to shoot great for chix and pigs. I'll start with lower end 4895, 4198, varget loads with the plated bullets. will try some n110 also. H4895 or Varget for ram and turkey loads with Speer 170 gr. Time will tell. The plated (Rainier) pistol bullets in my .32-20 have shot some very good groups but so far less consistent for me than Hornady xtp. My Marlin '94 is fussy. hopefully the Win 94 26" will be more forgiving with various loads. If my sons have time we will also be loading for a 24" Marlin XLR.
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    I shot some loads with the 150 Berry's today, since the sun came out. Bench testing ammo through peep sights is a bit of a struggle. But the win94 shot them pretty well, with most groups well under 2 inches at 80+ yards. That can work fine for practice and shorter ranges in CLA silhouette. a tried a couple loads with Speer 130s instead of the plated 150s, without any difference in accuracy. Mild loads of N110 are fun and shot well, too. I need to chronograph some. I also had good luck with a reduced load of H4895 as per Hodgdon's instructions. I'll use these bullets some more, but I'll be keeping them in the 1400-1800 fps range. Early efforts with my son's Marlin 336 xlr were not as good but I didn't try many loads that day.

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    today i tested the 150 gr plated with buffalo rifle powder. buffalo rifle powder is from shooters world powders made by lovex. lovex made 5744 powder for years and per their information buffalo rifle and 5744 are the same. i used 5744 with the 150 plated but 5744 price has gone to $227.00 and up for eight pounds. buffalo rilfe is $149.00 for eight pounds at my local store. before today i did several days runing this bullet across my chrongraph with buffalo rifle powder in a 1950 marlin 336 with the 24 inch barrel. i chrongraph 17.0, 17.5, 18.0, 18.5, 19.0, 19.5, 20.0, 20.5, 21.0, 21.5, 22.0, 22.5, and 23.0. so today i picked out the best from the chronograph tests (17.0, 17.5, 18.5, and 21.5) to shoot on paper and real targets. the 18.5 was the winner across chickens, pigs, and turkeys. i shot off the bench for paper testing checking grouping, no scope just my match rifle. chicken and pigs the holes were 1/2 to one inch. at turkeys about one inch to 1 1/2 plus apart. then i stood up to shoot steel. i set the animals heavy to check knock down power. the animals were set feet forward on the front edge on concrete blocks. i had one ringer on the turkey with a center hit. the turkey turned. if it was on a rail it would have gone off the 12 inch wide block kept it on. all other turkey hits went down backwards. as always chicken and pigs went down. so 18.5 grs of buffalo rifle with the 150 plated runs in my rifle at 1,555 pfs with no kick.


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