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    I have a 16" barrel 300 Blackout, and a 20" barrel 6.5 Grendel. The Grendel is way more fun than the 300. I have the Blackout set up as the first rifle to come out of my safe should it be needed, holographic sight etc. The Grendel sits a little further back in the safe, but it is more fun on the range.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drinva View Post
    I have a few odd chambering's in AR platform as well.

    The .224 Val is NOT legal for deer in my state of VA. Has to be .230 or larger.

    This year I plan to hunt with a 458 Socom. I've been working on the gun now for nearly a year getting it to run flawless and stuffing on some pretty accessories at the same time, just because I CAN ....and I cannot wait to see what kind of hole that 300gr makes.

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    I built me a 458 socom a while back, but traded it for a Marlin before even shooting it lol! It turned out really nice, and I sorta regretted it, as I actually traded it before I built it...then me and my buddy (who I traded with) put it together one afternoon. I often see the 458 socom compared with the 450 bushmaster, but to be honest, I haven't really compared the two. I know I took a buck with a 250gr 450bm last year and it did the job nicely. Perfect for where I hunt, which is steep terrain and tight areas with thick brush. It's also a more accurate round than I expected. I used a bolt gun, but I also have a 450bm in ar platform that shoots just as good.
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    I mentioned earlier that I was waiting to see how the 25-45 panned out. I guess I wasn't really thinking like a reloader (which I'm not...currently). I plan to put a bench/reloading room together very soon, and that's just about the best thing about the 25-45 sharps. Brass is easily made from standard 5.56/223 brass and bullets are cheap and readily available. For those reasons, I can overlook the other shortcomings of the 25-45. There are tons of better options out there, which perform better. But it's a nice hobby round if you're looking for something different. I'm not really a fan of the 5.56. I won't beat around the bush here. I understand it does exactly what it's supposed to do, but the small round just doesn't have the energy I like in a centerfire cartridge. The accuracy and ammo availability is great, though. So to use the brass to create a slightly better performing round using the same magazine and bolt, it just attracts me a little more than the boring 5.56. So yes, it looks like I will be building me one, if nothing more, just to have a new, interesting range toy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by broncojunkie View Post
    I built me a 458 socom a while back, but traded it for a Marlin before even shooting it lol! It turned out really nice, and I sorta regretted it, as I actually traded it before I built it...then me and my buddy (who I traded with) put it together one afternoon. I often see the 458 socom compared with the 450 bushmaster, but to be honest, I haven't really compared the two. I know I took a buck with a 250gr 450bm last year and it did the job nicely. Perfect for where I hunt, which is steep terrain and tight areas with thick brush. It's also a more accurate round than I expected. I used a bolt gun, but I also have a 450bm in ar platform that shoots just as good.
    The 458 is quite a bit different from the 450 Bush imo. Case shape and much more. I built my 458 and it was far from my 1st AR platform build. Thinking "the 458 will be easy and will run great" was my 1st mistake. The 458 ammo is all over the place. Every round from every maker is different. No "standard" has been made and put in place. This alone, makes the 458 one heck of a gun to get to "feed everything" properly. I have tried every ammo available from Underwood to Precision One. Even each lot from each manufacture can vary!! I dont believe there is a 458 made than can shoot them all flawlessly. The goal is to find the round yours LIKES and try to buy as much of THAT LOT of ammo as you can.

    I have mine running about 98% after toying with it for nearly a full year. I'm only running hunting ammo, so I'm not sure how all the FMJ rounds with some being more of a pointed round nose would do. I've never shot any of those. Right now I have over 1000 rounds of 458 through mine, and anyone that knows the COST of 458 Socom knows I have quite a bit of cast in my odd caliber.

    All this said, IT IS WORTH IT!!!! I have completely fell head over hills for the caliber. SUCH a joy to shoot. I know I've spewed a lot of info without any pic's to back things up, so here is a a few pic's for pleasure.... Lots of trinkets from Elftmann, Phase 5 and many others....

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    I ordered my 25-45 sharps barrel and dies yesterday. It gets a lot of negative reviews, but I think that's mainly from people who are overlooking the practicality of it. Are there better ar15 chamberings out there? Absolutely! But the 25-45 utilizes standard 5.56 brass. Nothing needed but a barrel and muzzle device (5/8-24 thread.... same as 30 cal chamberings like 308 and 300 aac, so there's plenty to choose from). I don't have any desire to reload 5.56. But I have plenty of brass. So if I'm loading them, may as well chuck a bigger bullet in it. I was watching a video about it and a guy was getting around 2800 fps with an 85gr bullet out of an 18" barrel. Compared to 6.8 & 6.5 grendel, it is lacking some. But still, that makes for a very effective deer rifle out to, say, 200 yds (maybe a little more). For a little more energy, heavier bullets are available as long as you keep the distance within reason. The deer, hogs, and coyote will never know the difference.
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    I haven't commented on this thread, but I thought I would let you know I think the 25-45 Sharps is a good choice. It is the John Wooters .25-222 Copperhead of the AR world.

    Oh, and by the way I built mine last year. I like .25 cal rifles, actually I like all caliber rifles from .17 cal. to .50 cal.
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    Oh the list...
    Skipping over the various 223 variants my list includes:
    224 Valkyrie
    6mm AR
    6x45mm
    6.5 Grendel
    6.8 SPC
    30 RAR
    7.62x39mm
    350 Legend
    458 SOCOM

    The 458 SOCOM is amazing on deer and pigs in close quarters, the 7.62x39 seems to get passed over in favor for the 300BLK but is a great deer round and cheap ammo is everywhere.
    The 6.5 Grendel does everything I would want, it dispatches deer with ease, has long range capabilities, and can throw 140 gr. bullet if you need penetration.
    Still working on the 350 Legend, but I'm expecting good things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnly View Post
    Oh the list...
    Skipping over the various 223 variants my list includes:
    224 Valkyrie
    6mm AR
    6x45mm
    6.5 Grendel
    6.8 SPC
    30 RAR
    7.62x39mm
    350 Legend
    458 SOCOM

    The 458 SOCOM is amazing on deer and pigs in close quarters, the 7.62x39 seems to get passed over in favor for the 300BLK but is a great deer round and cheap ammo is everywhere.
    The 6.5 Grendel does everything I would want, it dispatches deer with ease, has long range capabilities, and can throw 140 gr. bullet if you need penetration.
    Still working on the 350 Legend, but I'm expecting good things.
    johnly,

    Thank you for the 458 comment, I am planning on deer hunting with mine in a week or two and it's good to hear that it performs well. What round are you using that has done so well (458 bullet)? I do not reload, so I'm limited to factory made. I'm guessing the hog round would be a penetrator style?

    DR
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    Quote Originally Posted by drinva View Post
    johnly,

    Thank you for the 458 comment, I am planning on deer hunting with mine in a week or two and it's good to hear that it performs well. What round are you using that has done so well (458 bullet)? I do not reload, so I'm limited to factory made. I'm guessing the hog round would be a penetrator style?

    DR
    I'm using the 325 FTX for deer and the 300 Barnes TAC-TX for pigs.
    The 458 Corbon factory ammo is good stuff.

    John
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    I have a couple ar15's one is a standard milspec 16 inch in 5.56 and is an open sight home defense item. one is a 20 inch barrel 223 Wylde with a 6 to 24 power scope for ringing steel at long distances. But I recently built an upper in 350 Legend and so far very happy with it. Going to go ahead and build a dedicated lower for it and probably duracoat it a different less scary color....
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