another for glock 40 mos 10mm
I've always wanted a 10mm but have never managed to acquire one preferably on a 1911 platform. I'm partial to .357sig over a .40 though.
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I have to admit, I like both rounds.
I have several chambered in .40 S&W, and one Glock 20 Gen3 chambered in 10mm. I do admit, that the extra round capacity of the Glock is quite nice.
In the .40's, I like to handload 155 & 165 gr bullets, because for self defense, it does quite well. They're quite good penetrators on vehicles or semi hard objects, and have as much muzzle energy as a .357 magnum, hence the "snappiness" of it. I have found 2 good pistols that help the felt recoil of the .40, a Ruger SR40, it's bore axis is quite low, and the Beretta PX4, with it's rotating barrel that helps bleed enough energy to keep the snappiness controlled.
Now, with the Glock 20, I like to use 180's, because in a hunting situation, they're quite remarkable! Yes, the G20 has the snappiness, but I've found it much more pleasurable to shoot than the double action revolver magnums. I have big hands, and like the size of the G20's grip, and the feel.
Also, they're is another pistol new on the market, and it won't hurt the wallet like a new Ruger SR1911, and it's the Springfield XDM in 10mm. I have a buddy who just bought one, and he loves it. The Springfield XDM line has been extremely accurate in .40, and now 10mm.
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I've dabbled with the 40S&W since 1990, the year it was introduced, and the 10mm since 2012, and I like them both. I currently carry a 40S&W on duty, and while there are other calibers I wouldn't mind carrying, the 40 does the job just fine. 43 rounds on board, 15 in the S&W M&P fullsize, and two spare mags on the duty belt. One thing both the 10 and the 40 have going for them is good sectional density, they will penetrate various targets VERY well unless you tell them not to, via rapid expansion or "reduced" bullet weight. Both rounds were designed around the 180 grain hollow point, and while other weights have come along, the 180 still sees a lot of use. I prefer the somewhat lighter slugs in the 40, namely the 155-165 grain rounds, they give me a little more velocity, but if I want a real speedster for even less penetration, the 135 grain load gets the nod at a screaming 1350fps+.
Duty ammo for the 40 runs from good to excellent, as usual the Speer Gold Dots and various other bonded-core rounds are available at Boutique prices, but the load I see most often is the good old Hornady Critical Defense 165 grainer. It penetrates soft targets well, expands like nobody's business, and can be found just about anywhere. There's a lot to love, and Hornady make VERY good stuff. (The Critical DUTY load, in my testing, isn't much for expansion. Great on auto bodies and glass, but the cores are hard as a hooker's heart, and a shot into unprotected flesh is likely to result in a pass-through wound, unless you're shooting Jabba The Hut.)
I currently have several 40's, I sold my Shield to a badge guy who wanted it when I replaced it with the 45 version, but I still have a Ruger SR-40, a Witness Match, my M&P Howdy Doody gun, and a couple of carbines so chambered. I like them all, and have reloaded enough 40 ammo to sink a small fleet of Dinghys. It's a very forgiving round, and brass lasts almost forever, unless you really pound it hard. My first 40 was an EAA Witness I put about 55,000 rounds through before I passed it onto my son, who still carries it occasionally, and it's still battle-ready. All-steel guns may be a pain to carry, but they last a LONG time. I've had six Witnesses, and they were all worth more than I paid for them. Here are a few, with the 10mm third down and the well-used 40 on the bottom.
The Ten Millimeter is an awesome round, but I didn't find one I could afford until 2012, then I pounced on a Witness I found languishing in a local Funshop for about half what it was worth. I sold it about a year ago but almost immediately replaced it with a Kimber, the Custom II, which I like even better. Yes, it's heavy, and it's no compact, but it delivers the goods and doesn't toss the brass into a different zip code, so we get along pretty well.
The Ten rocks in pistols, but if you really want to shake things up, look into the tens (and 40's) in carbine form. There is some VERY cool stuff out there, and adding more barrel length only makes good ballistics better!
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10mm is to 40 S&W what 357 Magnum is to 38 Spcl. I believe case length is right at 0.14" longer on both the hotter cartridges. So for all intents and purposes, a 10mm is a 40 S&W magnum.
There are 2 ways to look at 40 S&W
...the best of both worlds WRT mag capacity vs 45 ACP and KE vs 9mm, or...
...the worst of both worlds WRT mag capacity vs 9mm and KE vs 45 ACP.
I hold the latter view, and always have. IMO, 40 S&W was a solution in search of a problem.
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I had a Delta Elite in 10mm when they first came out, and loved it. I really liked the 10mm and its performance. I wont argue stats but from shooting it would say it was a step up from the old .45acp where as arguably, the .40s&w was a step down, ploughing the furrow between the .45acp and 9mmp.
I also had a BHP in .40, and loved that. A very manageable calibre with good performance. I wont argue the stats, no doubt someone will come back with MV and weights and accuracy etc. I just know how they felt to use and what I could and could not hit.
Oh and the BREN 10, interesting gun. Cooper was I think ahead of his time, again but the gun diddnt quite do it for me. Very few around, I think collectors have them tucked away. Along with the Tranters in 9mm and .40 which we made in the 80s. I never see or hear about any of them. If I diddnt have the magazine articles and pictures I might think I dreamt it.
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Wasn't the 10mm first, and then the .40 S&W came later? Or am I mistaken?
Seems I read the 10mm was developed for the FBI, who then decided it was too powerful, so the .40S&W came about to tone it down some.....
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I purchased a Glock mod. 40 MOS earlier this year. I have a little over 100 rounds thru it. I really enjoy shooting it and took a young buck this past weekend with it. I was shooting the 180 grn. Sig V-crown ammo. Bullet mushroomed nicely. Max expansion was .691 and weighed 175.2 grns. When I get a chance, I'll post a photo of the bullet. The shot was around 25-27 yards, deer ran about 35 yards and fell over dead.
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I like the 10 but not the 40. Give me a Coonan .357 mag or a 45 Super.
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