.454 Casull or plain old .44 Mag?
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    .454 Casull or plain old .44 Mag?

    My main revolver calibers are 45 Colt and .357 Magnum. Lately I have been thinking about stepping up to a larger caliber, maybe Ruger Redhawk in .454 Casull. But don't know if that is so great. The other option might be another Blackhawk in .44 Mag with the 5.5 inch barrel. Any advice out there? Or I could just keep refining my skills with 45 Colt and .357 Mag. I hear the 45 Colt can exceed 44 Mag in the Bisley Blackhawk. I also see they have some nice distributor specials in the Bisley line with .44 Special. Any advice from the Casull crowd?
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    My advice is see if you can find someone to let you shoot a 454 before you buy. A lot more power than a 44 but not everyone can deal with the recoil. I see used 454's all the time because buyers bit off more than they could chew. Smith 460 V then you can shoot 460, 454 and 45 LC in the same revolver but it is a large frame and heavy as most of these high powered revolvers are.

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    I own a Freedom Arms premier revolver in 454 with factory magnaport 7.5 inch barrel. The quality of the Freedom Arms is 2nd to none. Used to be that brass was only available from Freedom but now Starline makes the brass (it uses small rifle primers). The factory load is With 300gr slug and is rated at 2000ft lbs of muzzle energy. You can shoot 45LC in the 454 but the 45 lc brass head area is not designed to take the same pressure as 454 (60k psi). If you are looking at a Ruger Redhawk then also look at the 480 Ruger——it is basically a commercial version of the 475 Linebaugh. I also shoot 500 Linebaugh in a Custom Ruger Blackhawk . The 500 is at the top of the apex as far as most powerful in the world. Is this for a big game backup pistol ?

    PS don’t push loads in a 45. Ruger Bisley if it has the 6 shot fluted cylinder. It is not as strong and cannot survive a hot 45 LC load pushed to magnum level. The High power revolvers in 454 and 500 have beefy cylinders that are non fluted and only hold 5 rounds so that the meat between holes is thicker. Also, on high power pistols you cannot shoot std pistol bullets that were not designed for the high power.What happens is that they have so much pressure that when the bullet hits the forcing cone at the back of the barrel it will smash up and expand or obturate and act like a barrel obstruction which will cause a dangerous rise in pressure with a possible blow up. The jacket must be made to handle the pressures (special 454 bullets or special ones made for 500 or 480, etc.)
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    I have toyed with some of the big boomers. 454 recoiled too much. I still own a 500 but IMO it is not that great of a gun. Easy to shoot and is as accurate as a rifle if you shoot from a rest but it is just to heavy and unwieldy to hold in a proper shooting position.

    IMO an N frame, Redhawk, or a blackhawk in 44 magnum gives enough power to do everything you will ever need and are much easier to carry and shoot.

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    Also the Redhawk is not available in 454 or 480. The super redhawk is.
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    My opinion, a handgun in 44 Mag is overkill for any of my hunting or self defense needs, and I actually own two 44 Mags made by S&W. I would not ask for more recoil in a bigger handgun cartridge. I also don't wish to hunt from a shooting bench. I believe in shooting off hand with open sights to be a true handgun hunter. This is just me. In later years I've moved to N frames in 44 Special, but deer were not encountered in range on those hunts. Perhaps this fall.

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    Unless you are looking for grizzly or brown bear protection, the 357 mag. is all you need. If you are looking for protection from the big bears, get the biggest gun you can carry.
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    As much as I like my .44’s, at handgun velocities.....there is no substitution for cubic inches! If you find the .454 a little “stiff” on recoil for daily use....you can always download it to whatever is comfortable! And though I’m not a fan of shooting short cases in the longer cylinder, you can always shoot 45 LC’s in your .454! memtb
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    Quote Originally Posted by bassetman1974 View Post
    My opinion, a handgun in 44 Mag is overkill for any of my hunting or self defense needs,
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    You could always step it up a bit further and go with a Magnum Research BFR in 45-70.

    Otherwise, a good loaded 44 Mag should do everything you need it to.
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