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    Woods gun? To me is a good 22. That's not a gun to protect from bears and not a main gun to hunt big game. Saw same type post awhile back and guys were talking about 32s, 380s and 38 snubbies. Those aren't woods guns either, they are SD guns and about worthless for anything else.

    Then we have trail guns. I guess it depends on what you think you are going to run into on your trail. Same as in the woods.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drm50 View Post
    Woods gun? To me is a good 22. That's not a gun to protect from bears and not a main gun to hunt big game. Saw same type post awhile back and guys were talking about 32s, 380s and 38 snubbies. Those aren't woods guns either, they are SD guns and about worthless for anything else.

    Then we have trail guns. I guess it depends on what you think you are going to run into on your trail. Same as in the woods.
    I agree............I've used a 4" Colt MT Woodsman on countless Grouse, Squirrels and other small game, but the Original Poster was asking about the 357 vs the 10MM............

    We all have perceptions and favorites..............But like you, I don't see 32's and 380's or snubbies as being worth the trouble of carrying them in the woods......for any reason.

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    10mm fan here. Got my first one in 1990/91 when S&W came out with the model 1006. I've had at least one ever since. Currently have 5. Love the. 357 and 45acp as well but it's hard to beat 16rds of full power 10mm on your hip for just about anything that may bite you. Carry a spare mag or two and your ready for a small war. Yes the G20 is a bit large for concealed carry but that's not a concern for a walkabout woods gun. I have the 10mm G29 for a smaller CCW if needed.
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    Concealed carry and usual hiking pistol is a Glock 29 10mm using 180 gr handloads at 1200 fps, alternated FMJ/hollow point (Speer gold dot). In testing was unable to verify the 200 gr FMJ bullet went deeper, probably because the additional velocity of the 180 gr FMJ bullet allowed equal penetration, where as the HP had some additional expansion over the 200gr HP. Anyway, also sometimes carry a 10 mm Ruger full size 1911, velocity upped to 1300 fps.

    For years carried a Sig 226 45 ACP in that role, and never felt under gunned. Getting down to it, really do prefer the penetration of a hot 10mm 180 gr FMJ. Which could be useful on a bear shoulder or car door..

    No issues with a 357, but have a preference for autos. My 357 days, did prefer to load a hot 125 gr soft point.
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    Nothing against the 10mm but I'll stick with a .357 for two simple reasons. First and most important to me is the ability to have shot loads come up #1 & #2 in the firing sequence for snakes. Second, in the event I need to ward off a two legged predator, the .357 has established a pretty good track record in that regard.

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    I used to always carry a 6 shot (stainless) 45 colt on my excursions in the woods. One day it dawned on my that I have a better option in the safe. A stainless 10mm that can carry 9 + 1, with a couple of 9 round magazines on the other side to balance things out some. The .357 was probably my very first woods gun (S&W 4" 66-1), but like Tom said, that sharp crack of a report when fired was no fun.

    The S&W 1076 is my choice these days. Unless I break down some day and get a Glock 10mm. But they're so ............. well, I just think they're ugly. Sure, they won't rust, and they hold something like 15 rounds, ........... but somebody might see it, and ask "Say, didn't you used to carry one of those georgous Mountain Guns?" "And then that sexy 1076 Smith?" "What happened to you?" LOL!

    Go with a 10mm, even if it's a Glock.
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    I prefer to stay out of the woods, but I carry a .45 everywhere I go.
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    When I read .357 vs. 10mm it struck me first as a question of revolver vs auto. With few exceptions the .357 is a revolver cartridge and the 10mm an auto cartridge. And about those exceptions, you can get a revolver in 10mm but if you are going to carry something as big as a S&W N-frame into the woods wouldn't .44 Mag or .45 Colt be a better caliber choice? The same goes for a .357 auto. Why carry something as big as an automag that only shoots a .357 bullet? So, in this debate, one's preference for the revolver or the auto may be all you need to decide between .357 or 10mm. I've owned a couple of N-frames, even shot them in competition. But for portability, magazine capacity, and rapidity of aimed follow-on shots (firepower) I choose to carry an auto into the woods.

    Let's consider a woods caliber. For the men in Ohio and Connecticut above their .22 rimfires may just be the thing. But for someone who lives in the Pacific Northwest a .22 doesn't cut it. Aside from any potential human threat, we have to deal with the possibility of running into wolves, cougar, black bear, and even a rare, but possible, grizzly. Both .357 and 10mm could handle those (big bear marginal) and I wouldn't want anything smaller. I once shot a deer twice with a .45 acp and it did die - eventually. I'd rather not have to wait for an angry cougar or bear to succumb. Therefore, I choose to give the nod to the bigger bullet of the 10mm.

    My woods weapon is a Kimber Longslide in 10mm. I like flap holsters for brush and woods so I had a custom holster made in the style of the military M12. The military M12 was too short for my 6" 1911. My holster incorporates the same hardware as the M12. And, like the M12 version the flap on my holster can be removed and a thumb break strap installed in its place.

    10mm Kimber 6" Stainless LS 1911 with custom M12 type holster:
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    .380 is a good choice as backup.
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