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    Wanted - opinions on electronic safe locks

    Not sure where to put this, so I put it here -

    I've found a big gun safe, on sale, but it has an electronic lock. Punch in numbers instead of the regular old style dial type lock.

    Looking for opinions about this type of lock, please! My instincts say the old dial is best, but I could buy this thing NOW with my savings - and it's very tempting.

    So, what say the brethren about these eee-lectronic, push-button safe locks? Yeah or nay?

    And thank you for your input!
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    Old dial's are best IMO. Sargent and Greenleaf. Mine came with an electronic keypad but I had a safe locksmith change it out to a dial.
    You trade some convenience for reliability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffletop View Post
    Old dial's are best IMO. Sargent and Greenleaf. Mine came with an electronic keypad but I had a safe locksmith change it out to a dial.
    You trade some convenience for reliability.
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    Electronic locks are fine until the unit fails. If that happens you'll have to get someone from the company out or someone that can figure out how to open your safe. UNLESS it has a key backup. Which is what I went with. Even if my keypad fails mine unscrews and there's a special long key that fits in a little slot.
    I like the ease of opening and god forbid I need something out of that safe in seconds I can open it that fast. Also mine has the traditional 3 handled wheel to open the lugs. Not an electronic type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffletop View Post
    Old dial's are best IMO. Sargent and Greenleaf. Mine came with an electronic keypad but I had a safe locksmith change it out to a dial.
    You trade some convenience for reliability.
    I agree--while in the Army--the only vault doors I had problems with were the ones with the digital dial locks. The locksmiths loved those digital dials--money in the bank for them when they came to drill out the door frame around the lock.
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    I have a dial safe for over 30yrs. not one issue (knock on wood.)

    A couple of friends brought a new electronic safe recently on the holiday sale. many safe have gone electronic. If you do go electronic, go with a good brand safe.

    from my experience it's easier/quicker to access a electronic safe (a couple push of a button) vs. the dial (pass the # and you'll have to start all over. lol). but I'm still happier with my dial safe.
    Electronic it's great when it works. I have heard of some electronic pads going bad, but the company did fix them for free.

    I do like electronic in some things, but I don't need it in my safe. I tend to think, the more high-tech it is the more likely it will lead to headaches down the road (that's just me.)

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    Go to YouTube and look up the Lock Picking Lawyer. He has over 1,000 videos posted, and can pretty much get into any lock; manual dial, key, fingerprint, or electronic. He's sure to have info on a safe with electronic lock.

    I only have one question. Is there a bypass in the event the electrics fail?
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    When the Reds or NKorea launch an nuclear EMF burst over the country the electronic pads will be toast and you wont be able to get your guns before the apocalypse/invasion starts.
    You will be left with your pants around your ankles.

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    FLASH BACK: Spring 2016:

    I had a electronic combination lock issue with my then ten year old Champion safe. Would not open, even after installing 2 new batteries. Combination was changed once that day safe was installed to a combination I selected.

    Called the dealer who advised me to call Champion Safe. After jumping through a few hoops, Champion sent out a loaner key pad. Still did not open.

    Dealer representative came out and unsuccessfully tried several Champion provided "master codes" as well as new batteries. He called Champion and again unsuccessfully tried another master code. Dealer rep drilled out the safe door to remove the computer chip, open it up, and install a time-tested S & G dial lock.

    Old lock sent back to Champion to test it. Champion found a problem in the computer chip as there was power from the battery/key pad to the computer chip. For someone reason, the computer chip would not accept the combination or the master codes. Learned the difficult way that electronic safe door looks are unreliable and like a home computer, they will fail. All that for a mere US$475.00, tax included.

    The Bottom Line: an electronic lock has a small computer chip to operate. Computers fail and it is not if it fails, but when....
    Last edited by Ray Newman; 12-04-2019 at 12:03 PM.
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